Lady in Red.... Real or Replica?

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Haven't posted here in a while, so I took some time out of my busy day today to take some pics of one of my favorites to post up:

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Well....... I will take a guess. First I must say that the watch looks great so it does not matter. To me it looks like a genuine folded link band and a rep dial. I think the red "submariner" should not be as wide as the text below it. I think the dial looks great!

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Im not a big expert on the tiny little detail differences between the different red dials... BUT for the feet first dial, the red SUBMARINER should be slightly shorter than the text below it.. the C in chronometer on the open 6 dials should have a serif on it almost making it look like a G. The cornet looks ok.. crown looks like a 702 twinlock.. bracelet looks correct to me... date code for 1970 seems right for the feet first dial... meters first would be older...

probably gen white 1680 with a aftermarket or redial red feet first open 6 dial??

dizz

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Real, and very nice.

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Very tasty, B!!

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Lovely piece.

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I'm thinking feet first, MKIV....

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hmmmm..... If I'm not mistaken, I may have seen that beauty over coffee on 47th St.

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I would have to add my vote for genuine. Bracelet looks authentic. Watch looks, well wonderful! If it's not genuine, it's one helluva rep.

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I love this one............."PATETED"! Would Rolex made that misprint??? :whistling:

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I love this one............."PATETED"! Would Rolex made that misprint??? :whistling:

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HAHA i didnt even see that.. looks Chinese to me!

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Its an awesome watch.. looks gen.. even the dial is awesome but im not convinced its a genuine red dial, pretty darn close though. The differences i am talking about are so small that you can barely see them without magnification or very close inspection. I just pulled up doubleredseadweller.com and compared to the feet first, open 6 red dials pictured there.

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Actually, yes, Rolex did make a "Pateted" clasp :D

Check out this post here

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nice geninue red sub..

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I love this one............."PATETED"! Would Rolex made that misprint??? :whistling:

I think the PATETED bracelets are genuine and were definitely produced by Rolex. The PATETED 9315 bracelets are worth more that the normal 9315 bracelets in today's market.

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I like the bold thick font of the datewheel. It certainly says "look at me" through the cyclops.

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It's really nice, but I think most of it with the exception of of the bracelet, crown and insert is probably rep. If I am right it all down to the level of detail in the super high quality photo's.

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PATETED diver extensions were originally fitted on early 70s DRSD 1665...

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I love this one............."PATETED"! Would Rolex made that misprint??? :whistling:

That's entrapment!

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PATETED diver extensions were originally fitted on early 70s DRSD 1665...

LOL... learned something again today! I would definitely have said this is a rep, because of that typo... :shock: Funny!

After all, those "mistakes" often increase the value for collectors - think of famous stamp misprints...

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With a bit of work on the crown guards, a Clarks crystal, a Yuki dial with some lume work by Zig, a slow beat ETA with a nice datewheel overlay and a gen insert and crown and tube, that could be a cracking watch :D :D :D

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Thanks everyone for your comments. I've found that the discussions here regarding vintage have always been much more interesting than most of the "show and tell" threads on the gen forums.

As far as this piece goes, it's as gen and original as it gets. Regarding the dial, I have a feeling that those of us who have been around a while knew immediately it was gen. The watch is a 2.9 mil, and the dial is the so-called MkIII. The first of the open six "feet first" variants. This version and the later, slightly less "open-six" version can be seen on double red sea dweller dot com. Why that second open-six version was never called a MkIV is anyones guess, but after that one was the closed six version, and then the factory replacement dial.

"Pateted" is amusing, isn't it? A quick search on any of the gen forums will return a host of threads regarding this extension, which was a very early seventies "mistake" that was original equipment on 5513's, 1680's, and 1665's.

I'm surprised that no one mentioned the date wheel (other than mjmj) or crystal? Both interesting early variants as well.

Thanks for reading,

JJ

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Awesome!! :thumbsupsmileyanim:

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It's one hell of a watch that's for sure, makes me hate you even more JoJo :D

Side note to god - How come this guy gets all the good stuff and I get the rep sh*t?

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It just goes to show that I am still a padowan!

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Stunning JJ!!! :wub:

I'd love to see a family shot of your impeccable collection some time....

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