Guest avitt Posted November 17, 2006 Report Share Posted November 17, 2006 OK, Randy, perhaps you were right about some of that shill bidding (there, I've said it...) It's baaaack... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alligoat Posted November 17, 2006 Report Share Posted November 17, 2006 Pretty interesting, a Buy It Now Price of $5999.99, I guess $9100.00 is out of the question, this time around! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubiquitous Posted November 17, 2006 Report Share Posted November 17, 2006 Who knows what the story is... Could be anything. Maybe shills.. Maybe a buyer who flaked out. At any rate... I think we can agree- When it comes to vintage Daytonas, nothing beats a franken. Let's enjoy these watches for what they are without regard to dollar value... Simply outstanding time pieces! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the collector Posted November 17, 2006 Author Report Share Posted November 17, 2006 Alright guys, there has been a lot of talks if the bids are shill or not. i just checked the watch and noticed that it has oe bid at 4600USD, i know this bidder and can say with 100% confidence that this is a genuine bid. Lets see what happens next... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abakan Posted November 17, 2006 Report Share Posted November 17, 2006 Ok, I'll chime in the discussion if you allow. Just one thing made me think of something. He is using an open ID auction now, when previously it was private ID. You know what it makes me think - he wanted to create a sense of comfort in people who would be willing to pay $5-6K for it. For that he ran couple auctions, did the shill-bidding (I think, Randy, you were right here). Then it would look like two items went for $8K. It might've moved some potential buyer to spent money on his stuff. Now it is an open ID auction, with legitimate buyer bidding ~$4k. I am not saying that buyer wouldn't get the watch, but only that previous auctions were possibly the best example of good marketing at a cost of??? may be $10 per commercial Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubiquitous Posted November 17, 2006 Report Share Posted November 17, 2006 Hmmmm... A very interesting theory, and probably not far off from the truth. Absolutely makes sense... Buyers will feel like they got a bargain at $5k after seeing a similar watch in prior auctions finishing at $8k and $9k... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest avitt Posted November 17, 2006 Report Share Posted November 17, 2006 One correction: If we are talking about the seller flu-watches, all of his auctions have been open, not private. Another board member contacted him to ask what's up, and he said the the previous buyer thought he was buying a genuine watch. (This is a believable explanation). If you look at his current listing, he has modified the description to make it very clear that the watch is a Franken...this further supports his explanation. Now, this does call for a reassessment of the value of these frankens... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest avitt Posted November 17, 2006 Report Share Posted November 17, 2006 Now, this does call for a reassessment of the value of these frankens... ...I now estimate that this will close somewhere squarely in between my original projections and Ubi's original projections Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eunomians Posted November 18, 2006 Report Share Posted November 18, 2006 Wow. I thought the point of this game was to enjoy watches. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alligoat Posted November 18, 2006 Report Share Posted November 18, 2006 The current high bidder on this watch, hebe75, is obviously actively building Daytona reps! Looking at his recent feedback, we see that he's bought 3 Tropic 21's, two train wheel bridges, a Paul Neman dial, a v72 movt, a Wittnauer v72 case (?), a Daytona case kit, and a few purchases from jdm_k20, who we all know sells Daytona stuff. Hebe75 is in France. Having spent over 2k in the last couple of months, it's plain to see that he's pretty serious about this pursuit- the fabrication of Franken-tonas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the collector Posted November 18, 2006 Author Report Share Posted November 18, 2006 I am really curious to see where this auction is going to end Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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