prevendom Posted July 5, 2015 Report Share Posted July 5, 2015 Pam 036 on sale on bay. No serial number on the case, L swiss L dial..., I prefer Pam036 with T dial, but it's still a nice watch. It's a shadow edition, which means there are no serial number on it, because it was given to a an employee and then he sold it. http://www.ebay.fr/itm/Panerai-PAM-36-Marina-Militare-LimitedEdition-Tobacco-Dial-EXTREMELY-RARE-/181793195562?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2a53b8062a Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimlocktime Posted July 6, 2015 Report Share Posted July 6, 2015 (edited) I'm not so sure this is a fake. The watch looks genuine to me including the dial, movement, caseback, crown, crown guard. It could very well be that this watch was sent in for service with a heavily damaged case, which would have been replaced with a service case with no serial number. Additionally, there are a few examples of L SWISS L PAM036 floating around out there. Now... The fiddy certificate???? Hmmm not so sure about why that is being paired up with this package. Edited July 6, 2015 by Grimlocktime Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
panda06 Posted July 7, 2015 Report Share Posted July 7, 2015 btw, protected by paypal no? so if fake seller will lose everything Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StormTooper4 Posted July 7, 2015 Report Share Posted July 7, 2015 The L swiss L is correct. I think some member here started the myth of TswissT 036's there may have be 1 or 2 but they are an anomaly Check out here http://www.panerai.com/en/collections/special-editions/1999/luminor-marina-militare---44mm_pam00036.html Here's a gens Rear So I'm going with its a rep. But it may be my bad eyes. That certificate is silly as there is no 1950 luminor, there's only a 127 that has 1950 units. The 036 is a special edition from 1999 with 200 units Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimlocktime Posted July 8, 2015 Report Share Posted July 8, 2015 Uuuuhhhhh.... The 36 is a T SWISS T dial. The service dials are L SWISS L. Both are correct. This is a gen or st least a very nice Franken. http://www.9maiali.com/m/product-panerai-pam-036-b-luminor-marina-militare-titanium-44mm-t-dial-se-200-pc/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StormTooper4 Posted July 8, 2015 Report Share Posted July 8, 2015 Uuuuhhhhh.... The 36 is a T SWISS T dial. The service dials are L SWISS L. Both are correct. This is a gen or st least a very nice Franken. http://www.9maiali.com/m/product-panerai-pam-036-b-luminor-marina-militare-titanium-44mm-t-dial-se-200-pc/ I stand corrected. The movement plates looked a bit rough and the case back laser etched Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
computer_genius_1 Posted July 24, 2015 Report Share Posted July 24, 2015 The watch is not fake There are some Panerai watches that don't have a serial number. They are called shadow watches. Google that. The PAM 36 I was trying to sell wasn't first sold in retail, it was shown in a public event or something then sold to someone then someone then in the end it ended up sold to me And yes I ended up the auction as I received an offer for local pic up of $15,000. My buyer then changed his mind because he didn't want a watch without a serial number. I will consign it with WatchUWant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimlocktime Posted July 25, 2015 Report Share Posted July 25, 2015 We'd love to see some pics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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