Rolexman Posted December 11, 2015 Report Share Posted December 11, 2015 (edited) Got mine at last today. Will be taking this puppy apart this week. Stay tuned Mark--------Ok guys,I made this promise in the most terrible time. Next week I'm away on business all week. The week after is my holiday vacation so I have some more time on my hands to continue. In the mean time I won't leave you hanging. After all the kind words I already started the tear down but did nog completely strip it down yet. But I will post some pics and share some thoughts. Will continue next week and give some more information. First off. The movement not only looks great.It performed superb on arrival. The readings do not suggest it would need service. But than again... Readings don't always speak the truth.In this case they do. At least so far.... A very very clean and we'll oiled movement. Nothing like I have ever seen. All jewels are nicely oiled and the hair spring coils are perfectly spaced.Rotor attachment Most parts of the auto-winder are the same as the 2824. (2824 parts on the left) Lost the pic of the reversing wheels but they are also the same. Same accounts to the pallet fork.o-ring in crownSome say the dial side looks like the a7750. That only accounts to the keyless works. I would imagine that is interchangeable also. The rest seems newly designed. End of part one. So what do I think so far? I like it. Well designed, clean, oiled and build to last. Due to the fact some parts are A2824 and some parts are A7750 it even doesn't scare me that much (like the aP3000) when it comes to parts. My guess is this movement is designed and made by Seagull. It has all the characteristics.Stay tuned for part 2 PART 2Thanks the reminder GentLe. I forgot about this thread due to the holidays (shame on me) So you might have guessed it, I completely pulled apart the rest of the movement. You will see some additional pictures below with a short description and at the end my final thought about this movement. Random picture Base movement and gear train. Basic, clean, well finished. I would say bullet proof! Gear train jewels also properly lubed Naked and pretty! Clean but dry main spring + barrel Keyless (7750 parts below. They are an exact match) The long main spring generating exactly 75 hours power reserve. Final thoughtSo what do I think about this movement? I love it. It is really well finished. The way the plates are machined and plated and also the way the decoration is done, all very good. The movement was perfectly clean and well oiled overall. It is designed and manufactured from the ground up and my guess is that a big movement factory like Seagull or Huangzou is behind it. So how does it perform? Well as mentioned earlier the auto wind module is designed like the ETA28xx series. Which has proven itself over the years. So no worries in that department. The keyless design is from the ETA 77xx series. Also no complaints there. The rest of the movement is pretty basic like a hand wind UNITAS 64xx series. It's also as big as one. The only part I was curious about was the PR design. But they designed it flawlessly. Now that I write this I can truly say that they have combined the best of 3 worlds (movements) and put a cherry on top! I don't think we will see a lot of these movements breaking down in the near future. After service it is now running and performing exactly the same as before the tear-down: perfectly If I had to to be finicky I could mention 2 attention points of this movement. - The barrel walls were dry: in order to provide the proper slippage to the bridle and diminish wear greasing of the barrel wall is in order. - The tiny washer underneath the PR-indicator wheel was causing problems and needed to be corrected. Due to an improper bend the PR-hand pinion was tilting making the hand unparalleled to the dial. Of course the state of these rep movements can vary. This one can be clean and perfectly oiled (besides the barrel) whereas others can suffer from all sorts of problems. I have seen that many times before. The inconsistency with rep movements is very high unfortunately. You simply don't know until you take it apart. I know the V2 is out with the movement decoration plate but I prefer the movement without it. All those fake gears, levers and plates can be spot easily by anybody that knows even the tiniest bit about movements. Stuff just looks off. The V1 may not carry all the correct markings but it shows a real and beautiful decorated movement with real jewels, gears etc. The V1 is a nice C-cup whereas the V2 is a fake D-cup.... That's all folks Mark Edited January 11, 2016 by Rolexman 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GenTLe Posted December 11, 2015 Report Share Posted December 11, 2015 Lol, I am following you Sent from my LG-D855 using Tapatalk 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coolfire Posted December 12, 2015 Report Share Posted December 12, 2015 Exciting! Sent from my SM-N910G using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Revere Posted December 12, 2015 Report Share Posted December 12, 2015 Is this the one with the true length power reserve? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imajedi Posted December 12, 2015 Report Share Posted December 12, 2015 You know you are a true nut when you are buying it in order to completely disassemble it. Much respect. Following 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GenTLe Posted December 12, 2015 Report Share Posted December 12, 2015 Is this the one with the true length power reserve?Yep! Mark... This thread is a tease.More or less like... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geof3 Posted December 12, 2015 Report Share Posted December 12, 2015 Yep!Mark... This thread is a tease.More or less like...Damn... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rolexman Posted December 12, 2015 Author Report Share Posted December 12, 2015 update Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSTEEL Posted December 13, 2015 Report Share Posted December 13, 2015 Superb mate, do you think that date wheel would fit an 7750 movement? Reason I ask, date @6 white on black date wheels don't exist for the 7750. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rolexman Posted December 13, 2015 Author Report Share Posted December 13, 2015 Superb mate, do you think that date wheel would fit an 7750 movement? Reason I ask, date @6 white on black date wheels don't exist for the 7750.Nope, diameter is different. The a7750 is smaller. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSTEEL Posted December 13, 2015 Report Share Posted December 13, 2015 Thats a shame, oh well, at least we know now. Thanks for clarifying mate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markiemark Posted December 19, 2015 Report Share Posted December 19, 2015 The movement-tear-down-guy strikes again! Very nice! I was holding back a bit because of the movement, but if you say it looks good so far, that's good enough for me 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thermalboyz Posted December 23, 2015 Report Share Posted December 23, 2015 Followed!! nice thread and interesting to find out how reliable is that hybrid movement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martijnp Posted December 23, 2015 Report Share Posted December 23, 2015 Interesting topic, i'm going to follow this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sacsah1 Posted December 23, 2015 Report Share Posted December 23, 2015 Are any of the parts swappable with eta parts to increase longevity and reliability?Sent from my LG-H901 using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omaga Posted December 26, 2015 Report Share Posted December 26, 2015 Perfekt Job Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rower Posted December 26, 2015 Report Share Posted December 26, 2015 Yep!Mark... This thread is a tease.More or less like...Is there an update to this picture...I was hoping for a stripped down version of this movement! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GenTLe Posted December 26, 2015 Report Share Posted December 26, 2015 Is there an update to this picture...I was hoping for a stripped down version of this movement!Just search google image for "marta m instant arousal" 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lolo1972sg Posted December 30, 2015 Report Share Posted December 30, 2015 Following this too. Great job! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forevernoob Posted January 2, 2016 Report Share Posted January 2, 2016 Wow, thanks for taking it apart. I've been following the 5001 thread at rwi, and a lot of members there would love to see this!Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rolexman Posted January 10, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 10, 2016 Updated ;) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sacsah1 Posted January 10, 2016 Report Share Posted January 10, 2016 Yaaay!!Sent from my LG-H901 using Tapatalk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sub007 Posted January 10, 2016 Report Share Posted January 10, 2016 (edited) Great and love the closing statement: V1 is a c-cup versus V2 a fake D-cup...LOL Edited January 10, 2016 by Sub007 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gasebah Posted January 10, 2016 Report Share Posted January 10, 2016 Thanks for the excellent work. I appreciate it! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thermalboyz Posted January 10, 2016 Report Share Posted January 10, 2016 Very good review and appreciate your expert comments. ThanksSent from my pigeon 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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