Admin Posted September 10, 2007 Report Share Posted September 10, 2007 Dear members Because of the recent events with paypal and closed accounts, we are still strugling with the economics and it looks like we will be doing this for a while ahead. The ratio of members who select to re-upgrade their memberships after they have been cancelled by paypal is still very low. That being said, let's not start another discussion about membership upgrades and who should, who has not and who has. This thread is for information about the ads and for feedback on this particular issue. I will post more about that in a new thread and you can post in this thread if you feel you have anything to contribute with Because of this, we are going to try out some new ads here at RWG. One of them was activated by accident about a week ago and it looks like these kind of ads are more "interesting" than the regular google ads, judging by the number of clicks it got. This ad is more of an adult oriented ad, but it's still PG, but might not be concidered work safe by some of the members. It will be a mix of google ads and the example below that will be shown from now on. Other ads might be added to the mix also. This is, as I said, just a test, and I will run these ads for at least 14 days to see the development. If these ads doesn't generate more revenue than the google ads, they will be removed. Thank you for your understanding. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeeJay Posted September 10, 2007 Report Share Posted September 10, 2007 Although I have no personal objections to the content of the ads, I don't think that they will be of much use as revenue generators, as the majority of posters here (from what I have seen) appear to be people in long-term relationships... Not that there's anything wrong with enjoying the view Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
watcher Posted September 10, 2007 Report Share Posted September 10, 2007 I find them unacceptable and it will probably make me come on here less than normal. I find it uncomfortable that an ad is telling me where I live and how to find girls in my area! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victoria Posted September 10, 2007 Report Share Posted September 10, 2007 Although I have no personal objections to the content of the ads, I don't think that they will be of much use as revenue generators, as the majority of posters here (from what I have seen) appear to be people in long-term relationships... Not that there's anything wrong with enjoying the view Here is my recent post on the matter: http://www.rwg.cc/members/index.php?s=&...st&p=311072 Go-between tackiness, I called it then. But as my dear old grannie used to say, better out than in, so start clicking! (Except my boyfriend) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cableguy Posted September 10, 2007 Report Share Posted September 10, 2007 i still think these ads make the board not work safe....how about removing ads for vip members Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KB Posted September 10, 2007 Report Share Posted September 10, 2007 Although I have no personal objections to the content of the ads, I don't think that they will be of much use as revenue generators, as the majority of posters here (from what I have seen) appear to be people in long-term relationships... Not that there's anything wrong with enjoying the view On the contrary these ads blew the google ones out of the water in the short 6 to 7 hours that they were displayed, hence the need for a longer test period. Ken Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FxrAndy Posted September 10, 2007 Report Share Posted September 10, 2007 I dont have a problem with it, ok it is not work safe but in my job any thing that is not work orientated is not safe any way. If it creates more revenue go for it. @ Vic, glad to hear a ladys point of view on the matter and a sensible one at that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smilingbear Posted September 10, 2007 Report Share Posted September 10, 2007 I also think that the ads make the board not work safe - I would not be comfortable browsing where my boss or a client could see this. This might result in a bit less posting and browsing from me, and if that happens to everyone it could reduce the activeness of the community, which is a minus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Posted September 10, 2007 Author Report Share Posted September 10, 2007 i still think these ads make the board not work safe....how about removing ads for vip members Pugwash suggested this last week and I am looking into if and how this can be done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craytonic Posted September 10, 2007 Report Share Posted September 10, 2007 another board I pay membership on removes these for those that pony up.... would be a nice touch and incentive to pay. Alternatively, I don't think I have ever clicked an ad and would be happy to pay an additional couple of bucks to cover whatever income you expect from my viewing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KB Posted September 10, 2007 Report Share Posted September 10, 2007 I'm sorry but I need to point out that as stated it is the lack of member upgrades that is forcing our hand here, therefore it is really a bit much for non VIP's to be voicing discontent. Ken Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hambone Posted September 10, 2007 Report Share Posted September 10, 2007 I find them unacceptable and it will probably make me come on here less than normal. I find it uncomfortable that an ad is telling me where I live and how to find girls in my area! Well, if more people like you would support the forum witha minimal donation, then this might not be something that they are forced to do to keep things afloat. I am incredulous at those who are so quick to tear apart an idea, yet they spend much time here and contribute nothing to keep the place alive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Posted September 10, 2007 Author Report Share Posted September 10, 2007 Although I have no personal objections to the content of the ads, I don't think that they will be of much use as revenue generators, as the majority of posters here (from what I have seen) appear to be people in long-term relationships... Not that there's anything wrong with enjoying the view Well, to put things in perspective: I acccidentalyy activated these ads after doing some changes to the google ads last week. They stayed online for about 6-7 hours. Those 6-7 hours generated the same revenue as the google ads usually do in 1-2 weeks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Posted September 10, 2007 Author Report Share Posted September 10, 2007 Well, if more people like you would support the forum witha minimal donation, then this might not be something that they are forced to do to keep things afloat. I am incredulous at those who are so quick to tear apart an idea, yet they spend much time here and contribute nothing to keep the place alive. Ahem...let's not go there in this thread. There are many members who have donated to the forum and have prefered this instead of an upgrade. Besides, I appreciate feedback on these things, from all members. If I didn't, I would just have posted this and closed the thread Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giorgio Posted September 10, 2007 Report Share Posted September 10, 2007 Well, to put things in perspective: I acccidentalyy activated these ads after doing some changes to the google ads last week. They stayed online for about 6-7 hours. Those 6-7 hours generated the same revenue as the google ads usually do in 1-2 weeks. <img src="style_emoticons/default/wink.gif" style="vertical-align: middle;" emoid="" alt="wink.gif" border="0"> I'd say if these ads are going to generate 20 times the revenue that the Google ads did, and you need the money to keep the site running, then there isn't really a question here. I do think Cableguys idea about making it ad free for so-called "VIP" members is a pretty good compromise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hambone Posted September 10, 2007 Report Share Posted September 10, 2007 If the numbers work that well based on such a short period of time then by all means keep it going. Where I live there are massive billboards out for all to see advertising hookers which make these little ads very conservative by comparison. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Posted September 10, 2007 Author Report Share Posted September 10, 2007 If the numbers work that well based on such a short period of time then by all means keep it going. Where I live there are massive billboards out for all to see advertising hookers which make these little ads very conservative by comparison. I seriously doubt that these ads will perform that well over time, but it is worth a shot. Oh, and just to ad this: No personal information about you or you location is revealed. The ads uses your ip-address to locate where you are and then displays the appropriate text wich is the nearest city. It uses the same technology as the signature some of the members here use; Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victoria Posted September 10, 2007 Report Share Posted September 10, 2007 Well, to put things in perspective: I acccidentalyy activated these ads after doing some changes to the google ads last week. They stayed online for about 6-7 hours. Those 6-7 hours generated the same revenue as the google ads usually do in 1-2 weeks. The clincher will be if the ad revenue keeps up, or if it was just a click out of first week curiosity, which I suspect it was. "Find Sexy Singles in Miami! Find The Sexiest Women In Miami! Find Hot Women In Miami!" ...lot of lonely guys out there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Posted September 10, 2007 Author Report Share Posted September 10, 2007 Well, Vic. I'm afraid we would actually loose a lot more members and people would get A LOT more suspicious looks from their colleagues/boss/etc. if we start displaying "Sexy men near you" and naked guys in the ads Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FxrAndy Posted September 10, 2007 Report Share Posted September 10, 2007 Every time i walk past a resaurant i like to look at the menu, even if i am not hungry! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryyannon Posted September 10, 2007 Report Share Posted September 10, 2007 Will you be taking special requests? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watchmeister Posted September 10, 2007 Report Share Posted September 10, 2007 I know nothing about these things but can we link up with a gambling site such that if you click through RWG gets a piece of the revenue? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KB Posted September 10, 2007 Report Share Posted September 10, 2007 Great idea Kruze, PokerRoom.com please Ken Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeeJay Posted September 11, 2007 Report Share Posted September 11, 2007 On the contrary these ads blew the google ones out of the water in the short 6 to 7 hours that they were displayed, hence the need for a longer test period. Ken I have to admit, I would view such activity as 'window shopping' rather than 'shopping with intent' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeeJay Posted September 11, 2007 Report Share Posted September 11, 2007 (edited) I'm sorry but I need to point out that as stated it is the lack of member upgrades that is forcing our hand here, therefore it is really a bit much for non VIP's to be voicing discontent. Ken Even if I was a fully paid up VIP Member, I know that my opinion on certain issues would continue to be ignored, therefore I am not prepared to spend money for a 'privelage' I would not actually receive, and prefer to contribute to the forum via advice, discussion, and when ready, reviews. Edited September 11, 2007 by TeeJay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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