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The team here at RWG has noticed over an extended time now that many new members are struggling to have either good dealings with sellers or a reasonable understanding of a fair process should something go wrong. We have therefore decided to lay down some guidelines based on the many years of buying and selling experience that can be found in the RWG Admin team. These guidelines are intended to be broad enough to cover both buying from a trusted dealer and member to member trades. Therefore this guide will be broken into sections looking at all aspects of buying. Buying It is extremely unlikely that a senior member or trusted dealer will set out to scam you. Yes it can happen, but not by anyone who wants to stay a part of our community. For this reason you should enter into transactions with these sellers with the mindset that you are going to get what you paid for. The number one cause of grief usually comes from the buyer entering into the deal with a suspicious mind. If you look hard enough, dig deep enough you will eventually find something to complain about in any trade. If, on the other hand, a genuine issue does arise and you are both on good terms then sorting that issue will not only be easier but a great deal quicker and more pleasant. It is the buyer’s responsibility to make sure that they know what they are buying. The seller will list the item with pic’s, price and full disclosure but the buyer should not assume that the item has some feature or function unless they ask the seller directly. Once the item has been paid for and shipping confirmed the seller’s responsibility ceases until the goods arrive. We often hear complaints how a seller has gone silent once the item has been bought. As long as the item is not long overdue then the seller does not have to keep a running commentary going with you. He sold you goods, not added you to his Christmas card list. Buyers need to check with the shipper &/or their local post office to see how long shipments take & what each of the entries in their tracking form means. Buyers need to realize that sellers have lives (outside of RWG), too & may not always be able to respond immediately to every email, PM or phone call made by an over-anxious newbie. Buyers should learn to be patient & limit communications to no more than 1/week. Buyers should never inundate a seller with repeated, threatening &/or lengthy diatribes. These rarely produce a positive result. Selling Prices are mandatory for all sales by members or dealers! RWG is a global community and as such hosts many different languages and customs. Just because the seller knows what he has stated he should not simply assume the buyer understands. For this reason it is crucial for the seller to include as much information as possible, but in clear concise terms, into their sales thread. Dealers should have pinned instructions on how to buy in their sales area, stating any special terms or conditions. Remember it does not matter how long you have done this for, the noob still will not know. A seller, both dealers and members, must always remember that things can go wrong and when they do they need to have a policy on how this can be fixed. Yes a private seller may add a clause stating all risks are the buyers but it must be written not simply expected. RWG hosts a member policed sales area. This means that members do have the right to point out issues that they may see with a sale. A seller has the right to ask any price he wants for his merchandise but he has to expect the members to question that price if they feel it is unrealistic. When problems arise [*]The very best offer you can get is to repair or replace. Once this offer is on the table the buyer should have no further qualms. [*]Shipping will always be a contentious issue as the buyer feels he has already paid the price on purchase, however issues are rarely the sellers fault, most in fact come from shipping. The buyer must always be aware of the sellers shipping policy or be willing to negotiate if an item needs to be returned. [*]Again senior members and trusted dealers will want to work with you when issues arise as it is their reputation on the line, however it is often the buyer attitude when dealing with issues that can turn the whole thing acrimonious. [*]Paypal disputes, often end poorly for both parties, so they should be used only as a last resort ie: when there is a serious problem with the sale and the seller has ceased communications or the seller is conducting a scam (a watch or other item that arrives damaged is NOT a scam!). [*]Buyers should only contact Admins in the following situations: 1. After receiving their item and there's a problem & the seller refuses to make it right, 2. If it has been more than 1 week since the last communication with the seller afterf the buyer reported a problem with the item, or 3. To report their being included in a global scam. Buyer beware One final note: when buying from a member who has very few posts or has just joined, it is advisable to be a little cautious before proceeding. Begin with a PM and ask some simple questions. Ask for a picture of the item with a tag showing the date and members name. Ask the seller if they are a member of any other forum so you can at least get to know them and check their reputation before proceeding with the transaction. If a seller gets defensive about the inquiries then there is every chance you are facing a scam and it is advisable to just walk away. The above can be just as true for a buyer so the same precautions should be taken. RWG provides you, the member, the safest possible platform for a happy buying/selling experience. However it is not always foolproof and members must always remember caveat emptor...’Let the buyer beware’. RWG Admin Team.

I don't get some people. Why are you spending $700 on a rep if you can't even tell the difference between it and a $200 rep? Maybe it's so you can have "the best and most accurate" (under $1000, of course), but why can't you be arsed to learn --actually learn, rather than check through a list of features (i.e. don't ask me about recessed subdials if you don't even know what a subdial is)-- a few things about this watch that you claim to be obsessed with? Is it so you can fool your friends, who most likely wouldn't know the difference between a $7000 franken and a $100 F-grade quartz? And if you actually ran into someone who knew their stuff, do you really think they wouldn't be able to suss out that you've only got the most superficial knowledge of this supposedly rare watch you're wearing? I'm fine with helping people who are genuinely eager to learn about watches. But I have no time for people who demand to be spoon-fed hard-earned lessons while exhibiting all the diligence and attention of a toddler at Sunday Mass. Rant over.

I thought I'd break out some old friends today. Enjoy! 51 years young... 56 years and still kicking.

I have seen it here, and a lot on some of the gen forums. A complete lack of intellectual curiosity, coupled with this overwhelming desire for instant gratification. There are a lot of folks here on this forum that I owe and immeasurable amount of gratitude for their knowledge, skills, and their unselfish desire to spread the knowledge. I would be far less knowledgeable about reps and watches in general were it not for you great guys. At the opposite end of the spectrum are the "no nothings" And I'm not talking about the noobs who come here with a very limited knowledge base, which is pretty much where we all started, but are diligent in their research, ask intelligent and well thought out questions, and before long are real contributing members of the forum. the ones I'm talking about are the ones that come here, with the sole purpose of finding a nice rep that will fool their friends and their fellow workers at Domino's, have no desire to increase their knowledge base or become a contributing member of the watch society. Sorry fellows, but for you, I don't have the time or inclination to spoon feed you knowledge that I and many others learned the hard way. These are the folks who are buying a rep for one purpose and one purpose only, to fool people into thinking that they are something that they are not. What these idiots don't realize is that it would take a real watch guy (WIS) about 30 seconds of conversation to realize that the person he is talking too is more fake than his watch!! You know I should be worried that I might step on some toes with this post, but I'm pretty confident that the folks I'm talking about aren't taking the time to read anything here, much less some mundane thread like this ( not being negative to your thread lhooq , just that those folks that refuse to read threads relevant to their watch desires will certainly not waste their valuable time reading this!!)

Om3ga guy wins.

Idk.. I mean. Having a Picasso poster on my wall is a little different than having the actual painting. Watches are art you can wear IMO and a lot of people think of them that way. The type of people who spend this kind of money on a watch are the same kind of people who play baccarat at 100k a hand. They bet a 100k like I bet $10. So if you think in that range, this price to the owner is probably what a $600 TC is to is normal folk. Is it crazy? Yes. Would I do it if I had that kind of money? Damn straight. To people who have millions or even billions, buying a 600k watch is like buying a $300 wath to us. I'm sure he could do a lot of good with that money and for all we know, he donates a ton of money to charity.

I thought this great post deserved a bump with all the great pics it has...

Love that dial

Gen bracelet with gen claps

Bad pictures = reps! Too often that is the fact.... ME

Good morning, The 1016 is finally on the wrist. Pretty happy with the way it turned out. Clearly, I have overworked/polished the case, but it was my first attempt at case shaping. I guess it somewhat looks like a 50 year old watch that has been restored a few too many times with a new dial. Regardless it wears great and I dig it. Never thought I would like the small size, but I really love the weight, thinness, and timeless simplistic style. I used a 1966 for my model watch to copy and that is what we tried to replicate. A BIG THANK YOU to Matt for assembling the watch and for sourcing some difficult to find parts. Specs: JMB case shaped by me Swiss ETA 2783 Yuki dial and hands with stock white lume Genuine 16200 crown which physically looks like the 66 1016 crown as in diameter and crown design Genuine 25-21 plexi that was in the original packaging:) Genuine bezel Aftermarket 7206 Rivet bracelet with WSO 580 end links I will say the watch looks better on and in person than in the macro photos which really show the overworked case. I am using an iPhone 6+ for the photos and made a make shift cardboard light box to reduce glare, but pics still suck. I am looking for a good camera and set up.

Until my sm300 master co-axial comes along.

That's really nice on the rivet droptop! Same watch, I wanted a more vintage look so used the Yuki matt yellow lume dial with the strap.

Oh so nice M. Here is mine: