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Nice! yeah I did hit Legend up in a PM hopefully he has some suggestions or could even help me with a build.

Ten years on the forum, good buyer feedback. Get a VIP upgrade and you can ask PayPal gift as far as I’m concerned.

Great work here guys!

Being new to the hobby and especially the forums it is great to see the admin step in and help get this sorted for the seller. I have personally dealt with the seller in the last few months and found him to be nothing but honest and accommodating in every way possible so it is good to see justice done and I also look forward to seeing Karma come around for this sad excuse of a scamming pig. Tariq like the guys have said, enjoy watching over that shoulder because from what I’ve learnt this hobby is a close one and if you try to hurt one it’s like taking on an army. Good luck [emoji867] Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Jia you bro !

Hi all, I've been silent on this whole debacle as I really wanted it to settle before making a comment. My side of the story below: I was approached by this disgusting character in March'18 looking to pick up some of my pieces and amongst them very rare limited pieces which I will probably never come across again. 3 months after 6 pieces were agreed upon, transacted and delivered to his address in Saudi arabia, the son of a motherless goat decided claim that the watches were damaged goods and demanded a refund of all costs. I stand by my work and packing and knew it was impossible that the watches had arrived in that shape. I had requested that the buyer return the watches so I could repair them but he refused citing cysts risks (wasn't a problem on the way to him but suddenly it was a huge risk sending it back to me - FYI where I come from I have not heard of an incident with customs in my last 8 years in this hobby). Nonetheless I was thankful I had@legend as a fair and neutral party who so kindly volunteered to step between and even helped to called that sack of manure and explain what was needed on his part and vouched for the safe return of the watches. After all was agreed upon, the dickless dogshit still decided to launch a PP dispute claiming I had sold him replica watches when supposed to be genuine with box and papers, backing out of the earlier agreement to return the watches. Thus ensued a three month long process involving PayPal, myself and key members of the community like@legend@blackboxes and many other guys whom I shall not mention who kindly offered to help via mediations (and even physical visits to said degenerate's residences, you guys know who you are and please know that I am ever thankful for your generosity). Calls to PP and a police report later I'm glad to say that PP finally ruled in my favour after confirming that the buyer was out to scam me. In closing I'd like to add, the things I've learnt from this debacle: #1 PP is a biased system protecting buyers whilst taking a toll from sellers. Sellers are always guilty until proven innocent, whilst a buyer can easily request chargeback at their whim and fancy. Use at your own risk. Always buy the buyer/seller and always always ask for gift/family & friends if you are uncomfortable with the risks. #2 You truly know where your home is and who your friends are in times of need. A massive shout out and my gratitude goes out to guys who helped, especially@Legend@Blackboxes@Cissiboy and mods here in RWG and RWI. #3 Some other forum (which I shall not name) very quickly sided a new member and revoked my selling privileges based on a simple PM from the stinking scammer, (I am a paid VIP and contributed earlier in the forum) without the decency to drop me a PM clarifying the accusations. And when I approached them to find out why, they accused me of profiteering and scamming buyers. I made my case, explained the situation and showed my prices and *poof* the mod went silent and is still silent up till now. Well that's 25 bucks down the drain for a "VIP" status. I would never count on that forum for anything nor contribute any further hence forth. #4 Tariq if you are reading this, always look over your shoulder for the rest of your life, because some day you'll have it coming, you can rest assured of that. Karma is a [censored] and might probably say hi to your young son in the hospital as well. Thanks for reading guys, can't say I'm glad to be brought into any limelight as I am usually reserved on the forums. ******************** Looking for: Any AP DIVER/ROO Working/Faulty/Damaged Cartier Balon Bleu 36mm Gen IWC 5001/5007 Dial PM Me if you have what I need!

Yes, I am sure the rubberclad is gen. Basically, I think that your rubberclad is an F or G series, and as such, it uses the 2226/2840 movement instead of the updated 3126/3840 movement used the newer ROOs. The cyclop of the older movement and series will not be as clear as the modern ones. Also, the datefont will also differ. But gen is gen. I am posting a pic of my i series Safari for comparison. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Just a minor update: Paypal has advised seller to make a police report regarding the incident, and this has been done, and the report submitted to Paypal. One main reason why I am updating this case progress, is because I think that we can all learn from this episode, sellers and buyers and would-be scammers alike. The point is that one cannot simply start a paypal dispute after having buyer remorse, and hope to walk away from it unscathed. As one can infer from reading this thread, it will be long and drawn-out process if both parties make their cases, and the outcome may not be in favor of the buyer always.

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Cheers from Croatia

Friends, Since I get quite a lot of PM's with questions about frankens I decided to write this thread. An AP franken is something special so it deserves it. hehe Basically this thread is about "How to build an AP franken?!" what you need and what to do. 1st step Since it's quite an expensive build, think about it, if you want it. If you are happy enough with the current reps, then don't do it. If you want something special closer to gen and you have the cash to spend, you are passionate about AP and/or you love the pieces then do it. Investment wise, I'm pretty sure you can get back what you invested. Parts are rare, the parts price alone you can sell and get your investment back. The case will go lost since only a franken AP uses this case. The 1st step I propose is thinking about the project. Also bear in mind, this is a special project and it needs time!!! My ultimate franken project took about 1,5 year to get completed. Don't get stressy, find everything you want to get your own personal build. Patience is needed!!! 2nd step If you decided to move on and take on the project then take a look at the regular AP dials, a limited edition dial is very very hard, nearly impossible to get. Once you have a dial you like then look for one. Ask around, contact some grey dealers that sell AP, for example in diamond districts etc. Contact some workshops that customize watches, like diamond setting etc. The price you should pay for a dial and tachy should be between $700 - $1200 (MAX!). I have now bought 7 dials in total, and these are the prices I have paid. 3rd step Once you bought a dial and tachy you need to look for an LWO movement. These are harder to get these days. Contact some watchsmiths, wholesalers etc. What you need is a Dubois Depraz module 2000 on an ETA2892 movement. If they don't come with canon pinion or hour wheel, don't worry, those are available to order. As for the cyclopse, you can use the rep cyclopse or if a cyclopse came with a movement you can use that as well. A few years back Uwe (finedd) made some cyclopses with a blue-purple AR coating, those are good as well. My advise, try to get one with that coloured coating. Gens came with purplish AR hue. The price of an LWO movement used to be $350 for a NOS movement. Right now I bought 3 movements, fully serviced with cannon pinion and hour wheel + cyclops at $550, sold them to some great members at the same price. Those came from 3 donor watches. As for donor watches, old Tag Heuers, Baume & Mercier, Chopard, Longines, Etienne Schwarz, Girard Perregaux used these movements. Ask around and you should be able to find this. Look on eBay as well, there was a set of 10 pieces Etienne Schwarz LWO's sold somewhere below $4.200. Divide it by 10 and you get a price below $420 per piece, canon pinion, hour wheel and cyclopse included. 4rd step I would propose to search for a datewheel I made, 1:1 to gen spec, unfortunately those are sold out but maybe some members have a spare one. Price for a new one was $61 shipped 5th step Depending on the build you want, search for gen hands, bezel, crystal, pushers and crown, this will be the hardest part imo for the search. This is not needed for a build, if you don't need this, skip this step. Basically the biggest difference between gen and rep hands is the shape. The center of the gen hands (hour and minute)is smaller vs the rep hands. The subdial hands look similar, though the rep hands won't fit immediately on to the LWO movement. This needs a slight modification. The gen pushers and crown use a different rubber substance, a more durable kind of rubber. Offcourse the crown is much better than the rep but, I feel if you want a gen crown you also need gen pushers due to the same aging process of the rubber. The gen crown does work on a rep crown tube, at least when I tried, hehe. The problem with the gen pushers is that when installed they sit a bit too deep vs the rep. If they sit too deep it's not 1:1 as per gen, with the reps it's much closer imo. Price for hands: $345 - $555 Price for pushers and crown: $280 - $450 A gen bezel is different than the rep, it needs a gen crystal gasket as well and gen screws too as the rep screws are slightly too large. A gen bezel is quite expensive. I bought 2 bezels, 1 second hand between $140 - $345 and 1 6th step buy a donor watch, the rep $518 7th step This step is not necessary at all! But I try to offer a guideline with steps to get closer to gen. This step includes the case milling to the correct thickness as per gen. The cost is $550. 8th step Once all of the above is done you will need to search for a competent watchmaker to perform these mods. Discuss the work on before hand, discuss the price and try to arrange a price on beforehand. I am open about the price I paid my watchmaker for the work, pricing was €300 for the modding work (drilling crown tube hole, shaving caseback, making movement ring, adjusting movement to COSC norms, re-engrave caseback, complete assembly) and shipping with UPS next day delivery was included. This to give an idea. 9th step Enjoy wearing your piece... TOTAL PRICE OF A PROJECT LIES BETWEEN USD 3.795 - 4.850. From my experience.

hello guys! Im new here,and started collecting rep watches. This is my last purchase and i have trouble identifying which movement is inside that watch. Behind the balancing wheel there is a TC stamp and thats about it. Thank you! I took some photos maybe anybody can tell from pics...P..S movement have fast date change and hacking ...