@Fidhle the 14060 is gen so not much to say there.
The 16610/168000 has a gen dial, crystal, crown & tube, a gen 3035 movement, open 6 and 9 DW, gen insert and the rest is really up for debate.
http://www.rwg.cc/topic/143697-all-16610-casewatch-experts-needed-asap/page__p__1078673#entry1078673
Just got one and oh my....it´s even better then then described. Even the strap is decent.
It somehow just pops out at you in a subtle way!
Only one issue really, the rotor is a bit noisy but nothing too bad.
Great job!
This is exactly how I fixed the keyless on one of the DG´s.
Searched the forum, read read and read and by the probably the 11th hour of trying I managed to fix it
I love this place