This is one I will watch with great interest , as I have been waiting since the start of Dec. For the new full. Ceramic Ap44roo all black .Every dealer said yep stock is 4 Days. So went with toz, and bought a few specials . All still held up because JF hasn't supplied. So yeH , twist on your experience And I pay Western Union .Toro will come through, perhaps choose a great Ap 15200, blue dial. But hell I'm AP addicted .Btw he has assured me I will have it all before Chinese New Year , which is when we all hang for supply.