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  4. New 111h

    in The Panerai Area

    Posted

    Wan,

    Thanks for your long discussion. I am just curious to hear your opinion about a plain un-modified Swiss made ETA/Unitas 6497 and how it would be in comparison with the movements you are discussing above in terms of reliability and quality. I bought a replica recently, which does not have any names etc neither on the back, the movement nor the dial. The reason was simply that I did not want it to look like a rep. I normally collect vintage sport rolexes and I did not want anyone to think I am going around with a fake watch since I think most of my friends who are also watch enthusiasts would probably find it a bit cheap (no critisism here of people buying reps, this was just my logic). Therefore I decided to go for one without any markings what so ever since then it will not look like I am pretending anything and that I have just bought a fun watch for what it is.

    I am happy with the quality of the outer things such as screws, spring bar and crown protector and it keeps perfect time (a few seconds per day). The feeling of the watch is not very different compared with a gen Pam 111. My friend has one and the outer parts which could feel different still don't show any significan difference compaired with mine. The reason I am curious about the long term quality of my movement is that I am considering spending some money on a couple of straps, new arms and some other modifications to make it look more vintage. But I dont want to do that if the movement is of poor quality that will break down soon and after that the watch and all the money spend will just end up in a drawer. My impression was that ETA Swiss 6497 ought to be a rather solid movement, which should be lasting for almost a life time provided I service it now and then. I has been produced for over 50 years so eventual weaknesses should have been changed. I then got a bit surprised when you talked about lack of stability etc.

    I would very much appreciate your, or anyoneelses view on this issue. Thanks in advance

    Hello, the unstable 6497 i was talking about is only one particular series they made that has the words panerai all over it..Plus its a chinese copy.....Sounds like the one you have is fine and will last as long as you take care of it. The movement i was talking about came on a later series of rep pam127 and i have not seen it for sale in a while so i would not worry. I have a movement like you discribe as having and its lasted over three years without ever doing anything but wind it and i expect it to preform great with no problems. A real swiss eta will last a lifetime................Cheers, Wan

  5. New 111h

    in The Panerai Area

    Posted

    Im pretty sure the one The Zigmeister was talking about with the problems is the one with a diffrent shape swanneck adjustment pin. The badly designed movement only has one screw holding on the SN adjuster and flywheel. The movement at the top of the page in question has two blue screws on each side holding it on, meaning that the movement at the top of the page is a much better movement than the ones with only one screw holding it all on..............The movements with one screw, like the 6497 G movement will most likely suffer a catostrophic falure due to the un-even tention put on the one screw...........As far as the picture of the movement that Eddielee shows in his new 111h at the top of the post.............I think it's a solid movement, i have one in my 177h and one in my 111h and they should last as long as i want them too, with regular service...........In addition i also have the questionable movement that The Zigmeister commented on, it came in a pam127G...... When this movement first came out the makers were saying it was a 1 to 1 copy, but all they really did was put the"genuine looking"or proper looking swan neck regulator point and then skimpped on important aspects like stability and future reliability by not anchoring down the the SN regulator and flywheel with two screws,"a screw on each side" Instead they just put one. There are a few rep affecianados that "for a price" will take the questionable G movement and swap the flywheel and SN parts from a better movement and install it in the G movement so that you could have a "gen looking" regulator point along with the two blue screws holding it on to make it a much better movement that also looks like a genuine pam movement.............I guess if you did that you would have the closest to a gen looking movement you can have............But Why? it still wont fool the people you couldent fool before. I guess if someone "who was new to Panerai" had a checklist with all the things to look for in a Pam 6497 movement to tell if its a rep or gen would be able to say that the movement passed all the criteria that 95% would look for,"without opening the display back" to call the movement a genuine Panerai....I know that 95% seems like alot but unless you live it and breathe it like the other 5% you dont even know that the the movement in question, "a 6497" is not even made by Panerai but by Eta.........I am lucky enough to own a gen Panerai so i get to compare between my reps and my gen all the time. I think i have found a way to describe between a really good fully modded rep and a gen.........You can buy "the most expensive" best of the best kit to make a rep of a Shelby Cobra with the 427 Cobra jet engine and all the extras. "we've all seen the ads for them in the back of mags"............If you took the $100,000 replica and put it next to the real thing, "in any condition", The Genuine Shelby 427 Cobra will out class and beat the kit without even racing but boy "they both" sure are fun to drive...................Im not sure what started me on this rant but.....Oh yeah, i remember....Instead of worrying about having the closest looking pam movement, you should just buy a asian pam000 or 005 with a solid caseback.I have found that the asian movements work great so with a upgraded CP and lume you can have a 98% gen looking rep that you are not afraid to take off...........Cheers, Wan

  16. Sshbb Is Here

    in Other Brands Area

    Posted

    "VERY IMPORTANT" Everyone who gets there Big Bang, be sure and tighten up every screw on the thing because i had one screw on the bezel that was not tight and i almost did not notice it when it almost fell out..............Its kind of tricky to tighten the screws because they are not flat head so i got my smallest screwdriver and cranked it tight like reeling in a fishing line.........BUT BE CAREFULL you dont want to scratch the watch............"if anyone knows where to get a screwdriver head to fit those screws please let me know"............Thanks, Wan

  17. Sshbb Is Here

    in Other Brands Area

    Posted

    How about the chronos... do they work well and reset right? Seems 3 oclock is not pointing straight up but maybe just not reset?

    They seem to reset right....(i did see what you were talking about and all i did was reset again and it was okay).......Cheers, Wan

  19. Sshbb Is Here

    in Other Brands Area

    Posted

    Help me out... it looks like TT in some pics and SS in the last pic...

    Thats just the lighting........The watch is polished and brushed SS it does not look TT at all in person, i just wanted to show off the AR coating in those pics and thats how they came out looking TT............Cheers, Wan

  21. Sshbb Is Here

    in Other Brands Area

    Posted

    Here are a few pics.......cheers, Wan

    I will post more detailed pics later when i have more time..........Wan (also i noticed that there is a NEW better cheap big bang rep, better than the previous $100 Big bang on ioffer) just go to ioffer and search for Hublot Big Bang and you can see for yourself...........They have a $110 version with the rubber strap and a few more versions....................but this one is the big daddy. Cheers, Wan

  23. Sshbb Is Here

    in Other Brands Area

    Posted

    (edit-pics down below in next reply)I will take pics as soon as i get to my digital camera when i get to work in an hour or so................All i can say is WOW it looks great, feels great, the AR is the best i've ever seen and it lives up to all the hype!!!..............good bye for now, pics as soon as i can "sorry for the tease".....I think i might stop by Tourneau on the way to work so that i can give the best review i can but for now i give it a 10 out of 10................cheers, Wan

  24. The Price Of Hublot Big Bang?

    in General Discussion

    Posted

    All i have to say to you two bickering alpha males is..............OH YEAH!!!!............."My SS Big Bang arrives today and if you ordered one you will probably get yours today also"...... so lets end this awful thread and move on before this place turnes into that other RWG..............BIZIG BIZANG!!!!!.......Cheers, Wan

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