thanks guys, had to sell all of my bk wm9s , even my modded wm9 v2 with gen crystal crown and insert and tc 2 bracelet. but this is trully a nice watch. I think i will get a rolex someday, but right now i cannot justify spending over 4-5 k for a gen, I still kept my fav pam 236k rep which is now 250 since i put it on leather . my original 001 pam from 7 yrs ago now on a gen burgundy croc strap, and a 1950 slightly modded . for now i am satisfied, although i do want a pro hunter dssd , let me know if you have one to let go into a nice home