freddy333

in today's Antiquorum auction for $13,250 (yes, that is more than 13 grand for a battered '42 bezel) Looks like vintage Rolex is quickly gaining ground on what was lost over the past 2 years.

Unless he already has a gaggle of Rolexes, your dad will love it (probably more than words can say). Well done.

Interesting, but lacks pizazz without the orange dial.

At best, I think '20' is an estimate, but, surely, these red 6542 dials are rare birds - with or without the depth rating.

Not sure I agree with you there. Different sizes, yes, but no domes that I can see There certainly are ways to tell the difference between Rolex gen & aftermarket sweep seconds hands. But I think that if you rely on a hole in the center of a seconds hand as the deciding factor, you are going to have problems.

'Wow' is not the word that comes to mind. Something more along the lines of woe seems more apt. On the other hand, maybe, once enough of these clone parts get into the hands of the official Rolex service/supply network & RSCs begin finding them in watches serviced by officially sanctioned watchmakers, Rolex will get the message & free up some of their supplies of gens so it is easier to acquire the real thing than a copy. Though, knowing Rolex, it may just cause them to tighten their stranglehold even more.

I think S&U uses a generic model & simply copies/pastes features to illustrate each version, but, yes, same idea as the red dialed version I posted.

No. I just bolded the section to make it easier to locate.

Another alternative is to phone some local watchmakers & ask if they will work on rep watches. This type of repair, assuming no further damage has occurred, should take about 5 minutes (of course they may charge you for an hour of labor time (which varies)).

Yes.

Not sure a straight seconds hand will match the bezel, so I would just replace with a more accurate Mercedes Tudor (which use ETAs) hand. You will need to buy the set ($14) & paint it white (White-Out works well). (click the pic)

Actually, alot of the early Daytonas had those 'pooches' around the crown. Definitely, not a good indicator of gen vs rep.

I have only seen pics of 2 known gens (the 1st was posted on VRF a couple of years ago & the 2nd pic from the link above). So I think it is safe to say they are rarer than white 6542s, which is about as rare as a rare thing can get. Probably, in the same rarefied class as the (Yachtmaster Cosmograph) Waiter, cancel that order! I just realized there is a pic of a red '42 in 1 of my (brilliant) Japanese Rolex bookazines, which, assuming it is gen (& I have no reason to think otherwise), makes it the 3rd red '42 I have so far come across (so, maybe it is not quite as rare as a Yachtmaster Cosmo ). In fact, this 1 also has a solid red GMT hand (they do exist & Rolex should have made them all this way because the standard small GMT is very difficult to see (probably why they went to the large hand in the later 1675)) & contains a depth rating printed (also in red) above the GMT Master text Although I cannot verify this new watch's authenticity, I have yet to discover anything in this Japanese publication (which is a virtual treasure trove of Rolex minutiae) that rings untrue. In fact, I wish these things were written in English (sorry, Japanese only), because they are chock full of text, which, based on the pics, I am sure go into great detail & could probably answer alot of questions

I know. Hmmm........Originally, I had replied that I do not think the dial will fit your 1675's 1565 or 1575 movement. But, after checking my parts book, it turns out that the GMT versions of the 1565 & 1575 use the same pillar plate (part 8119), & the base movement upon which these GMT movements are based (the 1530) has the same diameter as the 1030 (28.50mm). So it just might fit the pillar. The unknown is whether the components that reside on top of the 1675's pillar (which are made to fit a dial with feet) will allow the 103x dial to fit over them without disrupting the works. And, unfortunately, unless someone has experience in this area, there is only 1 way to find out.

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In lieu of feet, these dials have a flange that runs perpendicular to the dial face which is pressed down around the outer edge of the movement's pillar (main) plate. The dial is held (onto the movement) by friction The dial's form also has a 2nd purpose, which is to hold the datewheel in place. Without the dial fitted, the datewheel would pop off the movement as soon as the date change mechanism trips. In addition to the 6542, early Subs & other 103x-based Rolex dials are made similarly (the dial pictured above is a 1050s DJ). And, yes, NDtrading's dial is made the same way.

If anyone is interested, NDtrading sells a red dial 6542 (I had been considering using this until I received the white 1) (These dials are made to fit a gen 103x movement - they have no feet &, instead, clamp onto the pillar plate, so you cannot mod them for use with another movement unless its dimensions exactly match the 103x's)

Looks good, but I think you need another second hand. It looks a bit too long & the lume dot should be closer to the mid-point of the hand.

Nice sighting (exceedingly rare (gen) red lettered version ), but I am not sure what there is to do?