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Rob, Stunning as always. I have another proejct I need to send your way after the Holidays!

Personally I'd probably be what they're afraid of, which is someone who would pass on this model. I understand what it is and why it's special but the whatch in general does very little for me.

Dare I ask how long you had to search to find that case? and how much it set you back? I desperatly want to build a 176 but every Ti. case I see has horrible fitment with the CG which is holding me back from starting that project. I've almost given up and started to save for a Gen 176 instead.

I've been thinking about giving lume a shot as well. Seems like sandwhich dial watches are the way to go for a first timer however, Have you ever done a 113 dial where the only lume on the dial is dots at the hour markers? I'm wondering if the dots are more or less complex as I've got an inexpensive 113 project sitting here that I was thinking about giving it a go on.

I had The Zigmeister lume my 005 because I knew there was no way on earth I'd be able to pull off a sausage dial. I've always thought about attempting a sandwhich dial myself though but never had a project to try it on. I just picked up a 113 and I'm curious to hear if anyone has tried luming the dots themselves on a 113 and can share some insight on if it's fairly straight forward or something I shouldn't even consider. Again no way I'd trust myself to do full numbers myself on a sausage but I wonder if the dots on the 113 aren't a good way to start trying out luming myself.

Gents, My wife wants ideas cheap / fun christmas presents for me. I'm trying to decide between 133 or 177 as a starting point for my next PAM project. her budget is <$200 so we're talking Asian Unitas in either watch which is fine with me actually. I'm not a huge stickler for movement accuracy as with many others here i believe that if you've got a display back PAM there are far too many tells in the movement to pass it off as GEN anyhow...so I'm fine with Asian here. In comparing the watches on Josh's site (he's usually who I do my business with) it seems like the 113 would be much better out of the box. Both watches are the same price but the 113 comes with saphire out of the box and is "less" wrong in the dial than the Titanium watch. However I've wanted a base Titanium watch since I started this hobby but never got around to it. Obviously the only place to currently get a 176 is DSN but his watches aren't exactly in the price range. Also it seems like the Titanium watches are drying up from the cartel dealers so I'm tempted to tell her to get me a 177 and then just plan on doing a dial swap as part of the build process to make the 176 of my dreams. (esp with the Little Hero dials now available). Somehow I think I'd probably be better in the long run to tell her to get me the 113 now and then get a DSN 176 in future and mod it further...but I'm soo drawn to the Titanium. Thoughts?

My car is red...so I'd go red. As a matter of fact I think that's the only color I'd own that watch in personally. Don't think I'd wear it much over some of my others but when it did come out of the box it'd be a good change from the norm to have the red one.

+1 and a backing plate for the dials with outstanding lume (The Zigmeister). I'd get one Ti. case and one polished case and make one of each if I were in your shoes.

Outstanding collection...and as others have mentioned some great straps in there too. I've been thinking about putting together a 176 for months and I think this thread is enough to push me over the edge.

There was just a post on this the other day. I wasn't even arare that DSN was even making 127's anymore...likely because of the lack of the correct movement. The only source for a movement that resenbles the one you posted is Angus as far as I know. From the reports the current version has horrible engraving making it only a little better than the completely wrong movement.

I've been passively looking for one recently as well. There was a post about a month ago which basically stated that Angus' is the best one to source at present BUT that there really is not availability for a GREAT 127 in the market right now. The one from Angus apparetly has a good dial, can be had with real saphire, but according to most here the engraving on the movement and movement quality in general is not good on the current offering. Also it apears as though while he offers superlume and a canon pin fix most have stated the lume is still not great and rather than installing a tall canon pin the watch instead had hands that were filed down. Due to those details I've decided to continue to wait for a good one to come along either second hand from a member here or until the dealers get a better version.

For us not in the know, can someone shed some light on these Alpha cases and what makes them better than the rest. I have to admit I still have a hard time pulling out the tells on the standard cases vs. the Jimmy cases myself but would love to learn more as I'm thinking about building another PAM project soon.

??? I asked DSN about this last week and he stated he's got the 000 available. I think I'm going 176 Ti. Base for my next one though.

Is DSN the only way to get one right now? I've always wanted a 176 or a 009 and I'd rather have the Ti model I think... Do DSN's Ti cases sill have the issue with poor crown guard fitment? Thanks

hummm...I'll see if I can take the back off and get a picture of the exact movement in order for you guys to help me identify it. Thanks for the insight.