yodap Posted July 3, 2009 Report Share Posted July 3, 2009 Hi all, Firstly, I'm sorry for writing with capital letters, but damnit, it's my favourite watch. Secondly, we all know that there has been a 'quality' replica with 28,8k A7750 (with secs at 9 and regular 60s chrono, which was an obvious flaw). This version has the low-beat A7750, has seconds at 3 like gen, and the site claims that it has the 30s chrono as per gen. What do you guys think? http://www.eta911.com/shop/step1.php?number=2750 (click on the pic to view all of 'em) Waiting for your inputs! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Packard Posted July 3, 2009 Report Share Posted July 3, 2009 Wait until you buy your next car to get this. Then when anyone mentions, "What a beautiful watch!" you can reply, "Thanks. I got it when I bought my new car." They will immediately get the wrong impression that you just bought a Bently and picked up the watch at the same time. It looks nice. Who is the vendor? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rogerthat Posted July 3, 2009 Report Share Posted July 3, 2009 looks pretty good but damn why can't they darken the red datewheel The bright red date screams out Would be better if black if they can't get the dark maroon cool that it is a true 30 seconds chrono and seconds at 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yodap Posted July 3, 2009 Author Report Share Posted July 3, 2009 Wait until you buy your next car to get this. Then when anyone mentions, "What a beautiful watch!" you can reply, "Thanks. I got it when I bought my new car." They will immediately get the wrong impression that you just bought a Bently and picked up the watch at the same time. It looks nice. Who is the vendor? I'm just about to get my first car Not a Bentley though... As for the DW color, I've seen some gens with bright red (exactly like this rep) DW. No problem here. Greetz. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yodap Posted July 3, 2009 Author Report Share Posted July 3, 2009 Here you go: This is a gen. Maybe the old versions had this color. They also used the same color in my 2005 B4B presentation booklet... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chronoluvvv Posted July 3, 2009 Report Share Posted July 3, 2009 i'll wait for someone to take it apart and post their findings before i get another one ... heck i miss my old one already Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yodap Posted July 3, 2009 Author Report Share Posted July 3, 2009 Well, but where should we buy it? I won't purchase from any unknown site. Not to mention the linked site sells the watches way overpriced. Maybe our dealers are able to source it cheaper. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onzenuub Posted July 3, 2009 Report Share Posted July 3, 2009 Eta911 is that a legit seller, anyone ever did business wit them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nathanchorley Posted July 3, 2009 Report Share Posted July 3, 2009 Eta911 is that a legit seller, anyone ever did business wit them? +1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onzenuub Posted July 3, 2009 Report Share Posted July 3, 2009 +1 Enter Domain Name or IP Address: Hop Min Max Avg IP address Host Geo Information Latitude Longitude Distance 1 0.830 ms 0.896 ms 0.872 ms 63.231.252.78 United States, Minneapolis 45 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onzenuub Posted July 3, 2009 Report Share Posted July 3, 2009 ETA911.COM - Domain Information Domain ETA911.COM [ Traceroute RBL/DNSBL lookup ] Registrar HANGANG SYSTEMS, INC. D/B/A DOREGI.COM Registrar URL http://www.doregi.com Whois server whois.doregi.com Created 30-May-2007 Updated 07-May-2009 Expires 30-May-2012 Time Left 1061 days 1 hours 20 minutes Status clientTransferProhibited DNS servers NS.DREAMWEB.CO.KR 218.145.65.143 NS2.DREAMWEB.CO.KR 218.145.65.144 ETA911.COM - Geo Information IP Address 123.214.172.45 Host eta911.com Location KR, Korea, Republic of City Seoul, 11 - Organization Hanaro Telecom, Inc. ISP Hanaro Telecom, Inc. AS Number AS9318 Hanaro Telecom Inc. Latitude 37 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onzenuub Posted July 3, 2009 Report Share Posted July 3, 2009 The Data in Doregi' WHOIS database is provided by Doregi for information purposes, and to assist persons in obtaining information about or related to a domain name registration record. Doregi does not guarantee its accuracy. By submitting a WHOIS query, you agree that you will use this Data only for lawful purposes and that, under no circumstances will you use this Data to: (1) allow, enable, or otherwise support the transmission of mass unsolicited, commercial advertising or solicitations via e-mail(spam); or (2) enable high volume, automated, electronic processes that apply to Doregi (or its systems). Doregi reserves the right to modify these terms at any time. By submitting this query, you agree to abide by this policy. Domain Name: ETA911.COM Registrar: HANGANG Systems,Inc. dba doregi.com Registrant: kimdongho Daechi 2-dong , Gangnam-gu , Seoul , KOREA 30-201 eta@eta911.com 02-348-6498 Administrative Contact: James Kim eta@eta911.com 02-348-6498 Technical Contact: James Kim eta@eta911.com 02-348-6498 Billing Contact: James Kim eta@eta911.com 02-348-6498 Record created on.......: May 31, 2007 Record last updated on..: May 28, 2009 Record expires on.......: May 31, 2012 Domain name servers in listed order: ns.dreamweb.co.kr 218.145.65.143 ns2.dreamweb.co.kr 218.145.65.144 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
opawlows Posted July 4, 2009 Report Share Posted July 4, 2009 As for the DW color, I've seen some gens with bright red (exactly like this rep) DW. No problem here. Greetz. You're right Yodap that the first versions of the bentley lines did come with the bright red date font. I really doubt they could rep the 30 second sweep though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cliffordico Posted July 6, 2009 Report Share Posted July 6, 2009 Maybe they can't rep the 30 seconds but even if it is 60 seconds, it looks more accurate as per the gen (because of the proper location of the sub-dials) than the replicas we are used to see out there. First I though those were pictures from the gen (like most scam sites do), but if you look closer, you'll notice that the date wheel font is not the one the gen uses, which makes me believe those pictures aren't from a genuine, but from a new version of this whatch's replica with the sub-dials proper located... And if you consider they have free shipping, the watch is not too overpriced. I couldn't find too much information about the site, though. Altough what I found are either positive (from people who bought cheaper pens just to try the service before buying expensive watches - and received the pens!) or neutral (from people like us, who have no idea if this site is a scam or not). Nothing negative, though. Anyone has more information about this watch or have seen any other dealer selling the same version? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logan Posted July 7, 2009 Report Share Posted July 7, 2009 In theory the 30 seconds sweep seconds hand would be easily done by simply doubling the drive ration of the final set of pinions. I maybe wrong but I'd be surprised if the movement factory would go to this trouble for a fairly low sales volume model. Its also significant that the watch has been photographed with all 3 sub dials at the 12 mark, so you can't actually tell which sub dial is which. At this price I'm going to guess its a regular 7750 layout despite the dial printing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yodap Posted July 7, 2009 Author Report Share Posted July 7, 2009 Nope, the 6.75 is photographed like that as well. If you look at the side of the case, it's thicker than the crrent version, which means there are some additional gears I think they managed to replicate the 30s chrono. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slickdick Posted July 7, 2009 Report Share Posted July 7, 2009 Nope, the 6.75 is photographed like that as well. If you look at the side of the case, it's thicker than the crrent version, which means there are some additional gears I think they managed to replicate the 30s chrono. Did you contact the seller? It does not seem like a scammer, maybe a bit overpriced yes, but honestly describes his watches with asian movements. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cliffordico Posted July 7, 2009 Report Share Posted July 7, 2009 I've contacted the seller. They prompty answered my questions and swear what is there is true and what you see is what you'll get. They also said that if I'm not happy with what I receive, they'll accept return with in 7 days and refund the money. By the way, they also have the Bentley with the sub-dials wrongly configured as most Bentley replicas do but that one costs US$ 320,00 shipped. The diference in price (this one here costs US$ 360,00 shipped) may be due to a better version of the replica. If compared to the genuine, I couldn't see any flaw other than the font used on the date wheel and the famous Swilzerland at the back. The only thing I'm not sure about this watch is the movement. Shou one get the 21600bph just to get the proper subdials configuration or get the newer fast paced 28800bph but have the dials screaming "I AM A FAKE BREITLING"... Their site looks very well done to be a scam. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slickdick Posted July 7, 2009 Report Share Posted July 7, 2009 I've contacted the seller. They prompty answered my questions and swear what is there is true and what you see is what you'll get. They also said that if I'm not happy with what I receive, they'll accept return with in 7 days and refund the money. By the way, they also have the Bentley with the sub-dials wrongly configured as most Bentley replicas do but that one costs US$ 320,00 shipped. The diference in price (this one here costs US$ 360,00 shipped) may be due to a better version of the replica. If compared to the genuine, I couldn't see any flaw other than the font used on the date wheel and the famous Swilzerland at the back. The only thing I'm not sure about this watch is the movement. Shou one get the 21600bph just to get the proper subdials configuration or get the newer fast paced 28800bph but have the dials screaming "I AM A FAKE BREITLING"... Their site looks very well done to be a scam. Well i don't know what exactly your question was, but apparently not if this breit is functioning like its described. Regarding scamsites, there are quite a large number of scam sites which are very, very well done. Theres also trustworthy dealers which user a very poor site or no site at all. It does'nt mean a thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logan Posted July 8, 2009 Report Share Posted July 8, 2009 The genuine uses a 2894 eta movement, and the rep version of this, as used in various seconds at 3 reps, is available, so I can well believe this might have that. The main chrono second hand however is powered from inside the movement and not the transfer gears. So make this rotate at twice the normal speed (ie one rev per 30 seconds) would require changing the ratio between the tilting pinion and the drive wheel on the chrono seconds shaft. If you've ever worked on these parts of a 7750 you'll understand how tough this would be and how unlikely it is. I know Breitling Bentley's are huge in Japan so "perhaps" the market is bigger than we think and the movement factory did the mod, but I'd be expecting a price closer to $600 with this level of re-engineering. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beards Posted July 8, 2009 Report Share Posted July 8, 2009 Interesting... I've been looking at a Bentley 30s Model T SS White Asia 7750 28800bph over at Perfect Clones. Must be one of the largest Dials at 49mm. I also love the three cars stamped on the back case. I would however have preferred the steel band not to be brushed steel.... but you can't have them all. Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chronoluvvv Posted July 8, 2009 Report Share Posted July 8, 2009 has anyone asked Andy or Josh if they can get it yet ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yodap Posted July 8, 2009 Author Report Share Posted July 8, 2009 The genuine uses a 2894 eta movement, and the rep version of this, as used in various seconds at 3 reps, is available, so I can well believe this might have that. The main chrono second hand however is powered from inside the movement and not the transfer gears. So make this rotate at twice the normal speed (ie one rev per 30 seconds) would require changing the ratio between the tilting pinion and the drive wheel on the chrono seconds shaft. If you've ever worked on these parts of a 7750 you'll understand how tough this would be and how unlikely it is. I know Breitling Bentley's are huge in Japan so "perhaps" the market is bigger than we think and the movement factory did the mod, but I'd be expecting a price closer to $600 with this level of re-engineering. Gen uses 2892-2 + a modified DD chrono module. Think of this: They managed to modify this old 7750 to act like the 7751, but they couldn't do it with the new 28.8k A7750. I guess the 21.6k version is more moddable due to parts availibility, or I dunno, but I do believe that they managed to create a true 30s chrono. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cliffordico Posted July 8, 2009 Report Share Posted July 8, 2009 I mentioned to the seller he would sell maybe hundreds of this watch if he can post a video of this watching working as he claims it work. He swears it revolves once each 30 seconds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cliffordico Posted July 9, 2009 Report Share Posted July 9, 2009 By the way, a 28800bph movement would beat 8 times between the each second mark on the dial, making the movement very smooth. If this Breitling for Bentley rep they are selling is 21600bph and turns around the dial once every 30 seconds, I assume it would beat only 3 times between each second mark on the dial. Wouldn't that movement be too rough if compared to the genuine or even other reps? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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