mastrmindalliance Posted October 26, 2011 Report Share Posted October 26, 2011 Hi, i have an a2824 that the keyless keeps screwing up on it's own. I only have spare parts from 2836 , both an asian and an ETA. I know the stems are different but are the other keyless parts interchangable? I'd buy the spare parts but there are no good options. Ofrie is a nightmare if you're in Aus. Cousins price with shipping is nearly the cost of a whole new movement and Ebay - well, how to know if you're buying eta or clone? So, i'd like to fix it with parts on hand if possible. Thanks for any advice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kbh Posted October 27, 2011 Report Share Posted October 27, 2011 The stems are the same........If they weren't the same the parts would obviously not be interchangeable. And I'm 99.9% sure all the parts are interchangeable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krpster Posted October 27, 2011 Report Share Posted October 27, 2011 Agree with kbh. Should be interchangeable since they are with gen ETA. However, since they are clones there is possibility that there are slight variations that may prevent cross sharing parts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mastrmindalliance Posted October 27, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 27, 2011 Thanks guys, Knowing what i know about these two culprits, I would have thought so too. But at least on mine, the stems aren't interchangable. Or rather, the A2824 stem won't work with the 2836. It won't engage at all. So what about exchanging all the parts except for clutch and and wind pinion? i hope you don't think i'm being lazy here... i'm asking for advice because i don't have the experience to know which exact part would be the problem. While this movement has taught me a lot, it's getting on my nerves now with the constant keyless breakdowns and I just want it fixed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kbh Posted October 27, 2011 Report Share Posted October 27, 2011 I bought 6 eta stems about 2 years ago and have used 5 of them in assorted movements with no regards to Swiss or Asian and they always worked. I'm sure at least one of those movements had to be Asian. Have you taken out the keyless parts and tried to see if they will actually slip onto the stem? Have you tried pushing in the release button while you insert the stem? I've got an obstinate Asian movement the the stem will never go in without pushing the release button and even then it takes some finagling. All the keyless parts from 2824-2 and 2836-2 are interchangeable, as far as I know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mastrmindalliance Posted October 27, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 27, 2011 I will try the other variations of stems and clutcch etc that I have on hand today The 2824 in queston has actually been fully serviced, so perhaps they were exchanged for ETA equivalents at the time. One thing I know for sure ATM is that the stem in my serviced A2824 stem won't work with the A2836. It goes in ok but but wont 'catch'. I guess I have my my answer though - that they should be exchangable - so I'll give it a go and report back. Thansk for the input guys Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronin Posted October 27, 2011 Report Share Posted October 27, 2011 I think you have the answer to your root cause of the keyless works problem. Sounds like the wrong stem was used at some point in the 2824. As mentioned the stems are the same for 280x/2824/2836/2846 and probably a few other ETAs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmb Posted November 16, 2011 Report Share Posted November 16, 2011 I have seen clone movements that use a different stem and I recently could not find the correct stem for one of my A2824 movements so I out the ETA gears in the keyless and used an ETA stem. But, they are often the same... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mastrmindalliance Posted November 16, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 16, 2011 I think you have the answer to your root cause of the keyless works problem. Sounds like the wrong stem was used at some point in the 2824. As mentioned the stems are the same for 280x/2824/2836/2846 and probably a few other ETAs. Sorry i missed this reply. Thanks! I have seen clone movements that use a different stem and I recently could not find the correct stem for one of my A2824 movements so I out the ETA gears in the keyless and used an ETA stem. But, they are often the same... yeah, they are definitely not the same. I have two 2836 movements on hand, one confirmed eta, one asian. They're the same.And one '2824' (quotes probably required), it's definitely not the same under the loupe. The keyless parts look the same although different finishes throughout the three movements. if I swap in the keyless parts from either of the 2836s into the 2824 i have to use a 2836 stem. Its weirdness is beyond my skill level. Thanks for the replies. Interestingly, the movement I have had most trouble with is 2824s. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ado213 Posted May 16, 2012 Report Share Posted May 16, 2012 Hi, The Eta 2836 and 2824 keyless works are the same in both movements. If you let me know the eta part numbers you need I can let you have them for a nominal fee of $10.00, you pick the shipping method and the price you want to pay for shipping. The parts I have are genuine ETA, I'm not sure about eta clone parts fitting. I also have a few 2836, 2834 and 2824 movements they are used but are all working and timed out, nice clean condition Best Regards, Adrian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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