ocdnick Posted February 9, 2012 Report Share Posted February 9, 2012 Recently my Rolex GMT Coke 16710 was not working properly and the movement needs to be replaced, I have considered simply replacing the entire watch instead of the ETA 2839 movement which runs around $170, can anyone tell me what they think of this watch, and has anyone dealt with this company before PureTime Watches International? Is it a good off the market piece for the price and does the company make good timepieces or are the scammers? Thanks. http://www.puretimewatches.org/product/gmt-master-ii-bluered-bezel/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ww12345 Posted February 9, 2012 Report Share Posted February 9, 2012 Puretime is an OK dealer. I have never had any problems with them personally. As far as the watch, I believe it is ICHS, if that sort of thing matters to you (I know it would to me!). Should be OK as far as timekeeping, though. I think it is a 2836 with the GMT module, which has been known to be a bit sketchy as far as long-term function. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ocdnick Posted February 9, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 9, 2012 i'm a bit new here, so excuse my ignorance but does ICHS mean? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ww12345 Posted February 9, 2012 Report Share Posted February 9, 2012 Incorrect hand stack. On a gen GMT II, the hand stack order would be hour hand, GMT hand, minute hand, followed by second hand. On an ICHS movement, the stack is similar to vintage Rolex, which is as follows: GMT hand, hour hand, minute hand, and second hand. Kind of a minor thing, really, but it would really bug some people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeyB Posted February 9, 2012 Report Share Posted February 9, 2012 ICHS is 'incorrect hand stack'. The GMT hand is on the bottom of the hand stack. On the 16710 genuine Rolex the hour hand is on the bottom, then the GMT hand, then the minute hand. The CHS 'correct hand stack' has had mixed reviews, with quite a few movement failures. I think that the 'Retro' from Perfect Clones is 'best' out of the box, not much is needed to mod. It is the older 16710 that has the holes in the case. It is the ICHS. http://www.1-pc8838.com/rlgs10009-retro-edition-master-bluered-pepsi-bezel-p-3493.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giobo Posted February 9, 2012 Report Share Posted February 9, 2012 (edited) The last thing that i have a problem with the clasic GMT reps is the IHS The retro is better by far... The only good was the noobactory... Edited February 9, 2012 by giobo 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grejyedi Posted February 9, 2012 Report Share Posted February 9, 2012 What's wrong with your exisiting GMT apart from the movement? Perhaps it isi a Noob. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giobo Posted February 9, 2012 Report Share Posted February 9, 2012 Check this... The noob is out of production a long time ago..Maybe sometime in the future .... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kerbus Posted February 10, 2012 Report Share Posted February 10, 2012 I've had too much experience with a bad 2836 GMT. If I were to do it all over again I'd get a 21jewel Asian movement model I'd just be sure to find one that has the correct size crown. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cib0rgman Posted February 10, 2012 Report Share Posted February 10, 2012 Chekc this out Best GMT out there http://www.rwg.cc/topic/142855-sneed-modded-and-franken-rolex-sale-explorer-ii-seadweller-gmt-master-ii-super-sub-cs/page__fromsearch__1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
correctime Posted February 10, 2012 Report Share Posted February 10, 2012 Chekc this out Best GMT out there http://www.rwg.cc/to...__fromsearch__1 Isn't that a beauty?? If I go look at it again I'm going to convince myself to convert my Noob exp.II to a GMT II. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
correctime Posted February 10, 2012 Report Share Posted February 10, 2012 (edited) To be honost the one from Angus looks better than the retro from Josh to me. The retro appears to be a bit on the wokky side...though the lug holes are a nice touch. Better SEL fit and correct numbers on the Bracelet from Angus too. Edited February 10, 2012 by correctime Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ocdnick Posted February 10, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 10, 2012 thanks for all of the help guys, the incorrect hand stack doesn't really bother me, another question, have any of you dealt with puretime before? i've dealt with rep magic and watch-international and have been sort of unimpressed, does puretime have good quality and are they reliable? the only thing that bothers me is when these dealers produce blatant flaws like bent hands or incorrect bezels, which i've experienced previously, i don't want it to happen again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ww12345 Posted February 10, 2012 Report Share Posted February 10, 2012 Puretime should send QC pics; ask for them if they don't volunteer them. As I said, I have never had any problems (cross my fingers and knock on wood!). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
preacher62 Posted February 10, 2012 Report Share Posted February 10, 2012 http://www.rwg.cc/to...ica-rolex-gmts/ Check this... The noob is out of production a long time ago..Maybe sometime in the future .... If you look at the coronet on the clasp of the OP's link, it looks exactly like all the Noob clasps that have ever been made. I have 2 of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
correctime Posted February 10, 2012 Report Share Posted February 10, 2012 (edited) If you look at the coronet on the clasp of the OP's link, it looks exactly like all the Noob clasps that have ever been made. I have 2 of them. I have the same bracelet "twice" myself. The Bracelet "is" a Noob Bracelet...but the case isn't. ( ashame the Noob bracelet on the GMT II isn't as tight as it is on the 16610's) And I'm betting a TW Bracelet would "tighten" up the SEL fit quite alot. If I go for a GMT II, it'll be the one Angus has...providing the QC pics match that of the site listing. Edited February 10, 2012 by correctime Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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