Same old question...vintage Rolex wise

[Akira]

Hello folks,

being a big admirer of the vintage Rolex builts, members have performed on this board, I'm looking for my 5512PCG options.

I have a gilt dial after gen specs, gen superdome T19 and gen crown.

I want it to look like LHOOQ's, because naturally - I want to be just like him

I have read a lot about MBW's - but still don't quite understand what the deal with those MBK 5512's from BKK is.

Reg still can source them and I've heard they take gen parts without big modifications.

So, since Josh's 5512 is way out of specs... Are these current MBK's worth the money? Or is buying a used MBW from

an member the only chance?

If so...

Cheers

Akira

Edited March 15, 2012 by Akira

[grejyedi]

This is mine from Reg's last trip - Reg's pictures

Guess it depends how importnat the crown guards are to you.

[highoeyazmuhudee]

This is mine from Reg's last trip - Reg's pictures

Guess it depends how importnat the crown guards are to you.

how well does your bezel turn on that one? looks like they put on the wrong endlinks (wrong being slightly larger rubbing against the bezel ring)

[grejyedi]

Hi

resonably well and is bidirectional.

Funny you should mention the end links. It doesn't actually touch the bezlel.

However, I complained to Reg about it after I got it as you can see its been forced in particularly at the 5.o'clcok, and in fact it turned out that the springbar doesn't really go into the lughole there.

I feel he should have spotted this.

The end link is 503B - Is that the wrong one?

[grejyedi]

Actually I see from the table in the sticky that 503B is for a Daytona.

[Akira]

Since I want the CG's to be cut pointed, the case should have enought metal to make it happen.

Had anyone here had both?

Original Maria's Best Watch 5512/3 and newer MBK 5512/3 ?

Thanks

[lhooq]

I have a gilt dial after gen specs, gen superdome T19 and gen crown. I want it to look like LHOOQ's, because naturally - I want to be just like him

Dreaming is free, kid, but I'm not the one hanging around fashion models in Manhattan!

I'm no expert on MBWs (I just wear one!), but the biggest differences I see appear to be the pearl and the rehaut. Is it just me?

[grejyedi]

Theres definately more metal on the crown guard than Josh's from pictures. Reg's pictue dosnt't really show the depth of the CG

[woof*]

I'm no MBW expert but I have done a pile of research on them and own three.

All of mine are older original versions and I've never had a newer one to compare, but everything I've read has stated they are not the same dimensions and gen parts need modding to fit. That's why I've bought mine second hand. I don't know that there are any real problems modding them though.

Oh yeah.. I wanna be just like LHOOQ too

Also... Pics of supermodels Akira!!

[Akira]

Woof l can't send PMs via phone.

Would you PM me your 5512 serial?

That would be great

Thanks

[grejyedi]

When did they change?

[Akira]

To my knowledge

MBW does not equal MBK

So if the watches are different there is a chance the serials are as well

[FxrAndy]

To be honest this new and old MBW/MBK thing confuses me as I had an old one as a 1680 with lug engraving 5513 which I converted to a 5513 and then uses a newer case engraved 1680 which I used to build my 1680 and modeled after my gen and all the parts swapped over no problems so I don't think there is a difference

[Akira]

Interesting Andy

Thanks for the input

[Akira]

Also... Pics of supermodels Akira!!

Sorry guys

I'm not willing to risk a lawsuit for taking pics of celebs or models at the office

Edited March 15, 2012 by Akira

[bigjule111]

This is a pict of what I believe is the newer polex case.i think??? Serial number starts with a L and says 1680 not 5513. It takes a gen xstal and yuki dial with no problems

[ldegeneve]

^Dude, that's Josh's case.

[bigjule111]

I thought that polex cases were mbw? So josh cases are marked polex?

[Akira]

Yep the Cartel 5513 has copied the Polex marking.

Anyways, it neither takes gen parts nor has it specs even close to the genuine.

[bigjule111]

Ok. Thanks

[Akira]

So are the old 5513's specs close enough to justify the price?

A nice member offered me one and l'm inclined to take it.

[automatico]

"To be honest this new and old MBW/MBK thing confuses me as I had an old one as a 1680 with lug engraving 5513 which I converted to a 5513 and then uses a newer case engraved 1680 which I used to build my 1680 and modeled after my gen and all the parts swapped over no problems so I don't think there is a difference."

I just looked at my 'new' MBK 1680 Polex L382301 and it has an eta signed etaclone 2836-2 of some sort.

If they used the same 2836-2 movement with the dial spacer still attached and day/date guts removed in the 5513...the cases are internally the same except maybe for the dial window as the 1680 dial is 26.5mm and the 5513 is 26.0mm iirc.

The mvt/dial is still in mine so I did not measure the dial window diameter.

[grejyedi]

A nice member offered me one and l'm inclined to take it.

Take it.

If it doesn't work outyou can always resell it.

[freddy333]

Ditto.

[Star69]

old MBW refers to the classic 1680s (which where basically 5513s) and SDs

the newer MBKs are the 5513/5512s - the cases are too fat and require a lot of work to get them right - but they have still 1:1

construction -

and after a lot of work the best option for the $$ - but a lot of works means complete overwork of the middle case - hours of work.

the JOSH case btw is nicer and more correct to gen sprecs than the new MBW 5513 case expect for the CGs .... which can be fixed up

pretty good and easy.

you can try Yuki - but the price is too crazy imho and you newer know what to expect.

cheers,

Frank