Akira Posted June 12, 2012 Report Share Posted June 12, 2012 Hi guys, some of you might remember that I'm the owner of a V1 MM 6263 from DW The stem broke quite some time ago and the one DW sent before he starting [censored] with members money, doesn't fit. Neither does a regular 7750 stem. RA said the movement is rather ST19 than V23 based. So anyone got an idea what I can do to get a new stem? Anyone got this movement as well and could snap a pic of the stem? Best regards Akira Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeyB Posted June 12, 2012 Report Share Posted June 12, 2012 Looks like a Seagull 192s. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akira Posted June 12, 2012 Author Report Share Posted June 12, 2012 Any idea who could supply a stem for that Joey? I'm desperate to try anything Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeyB Posted June 12, 2012 Report Share Posted June 12, 2012 No, but I'd try 'google', and probably try some of our suppliers, like Ken at Rafflestime. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GBOGH Posted June 12, 2012 Report Share Posted June 12, 2012 I have the same Mystery Movement in my DW 6263. I needed a stem as well about 9 months ago when Gonzales was working on the franken mods. DW sent me a new stem, which didn't initially fit it, but Gonzales cut it and worked it to make it fit. He didn't know either where to get another stem besides DW, so was able to make it work. Hope you find one soon. Good luck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akira Posted June 12, 2012 Author Report Share Posted June 12, 2012 (edited) Any chance you or he made pictures of the actual finished stem? Nevermind I found one in my archives. Anyone know where to get a similar one? Edited June 12, 2012 by Akira Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jkay Posted June 12, 2012 Report Share Posted June 12, 2012 it sounds like you need a real watch maker to make a new stem for you, using your broken stem as a template. using higher-quality metal, this time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alligoat Posted June 12, 2012 Report Share Posted June 12, 2012 The Zigmeister did a tutorial of sorts on making a stem a while back so you know he can do it. He also used to refer to the MM as possibly an early Venus, like a Venus 150 But trying DW would also be worth it, I would think Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ephry73 Posted June 12, 2012 Report Share Posted June 12, 2012 Damn I wonder if the seagull stem Is that hard to mod. I was looking to get one of those movements for a build. E Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donerix 2.0 Posted June 12, 2012 Report Share Posted June 12, 2012 I have the same movement in this watch: I can ask my watch smith if he can make a copy for you. He is pretty reasonable... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akira Posted June 13, 2012 Author Report Share Posted June 13, 2012 I can ask my watch smith if he can make a copy for you. He is pretty reasonable... You go PM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
automatico Posted June 13, 2012 Report Share Posted June 13, 2012 Chances are there is a stem that is very similar and can be easily modified to fit. Modifying an existing stem is a lot easier than making one from scratch. It is better to start with a stem that is exactly the same where the flats are and has the same thread size but the hub, detent groove, and pilot are fairly easy to modify. Most repair guys with a 'ww' lathe can do it. 'ww' = watchmaker type lathe Anyone who discovers a close match can post what it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rolexaddict Posted June 13, 2012 Report Share Posted June 13, 2012 Neither does a regular 7750 stem. RA said the movement is rather ST19 than V23 based. Its not a 7750 based as a 7750 based is a tri-compax. These Chinese movements are copy of bi-compax Seagull, non working chrono hours counter at 6, just a glued hand, not very realistic, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiesn089 Posted June 13, 2012 Report Share Posted June 13, 2012 Akira, as someone who's been there, don't spend too much to save this thing, just get a decent movement and save yourself the disappointement... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donerix 2.0 Posted June 13, 2012 Report Share Posted June 13, 2012 Wiesn might have a point here. Especially if you don't mind the one fixed hand. Those movements are easier to find and not so expensive. Either way I will see the watch smith tomorrow morning and will let you know. PS: My mystery movement is working fine as of now ..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akira Posted June 13, 2012 Author Report Share Posted June 13, 2012 Wiesn, does have a point but, the only upgrade I'd do, would be a V72 and I don't have the spare cash lying around at the moment. So if your watchmaker can do a stem at a reasonable price, I'd go with it. That movement has been working for years without problems, I just got unlucky with breaking the stem, when I had a gen crown/tube installed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niko Posted June 13, 2012 Report Share Posted June 13, 2012 Why don't your try Ofrei? www.ofrei.com They carry most movements and parts. N. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ephry73 Posted June 13, 2012 Report Share Posted June 13, 2012 Maybe a molnija stem for a 3133 would fit there? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slickdick Posted June 14, 2012 Report Share Posted June 14, 2012 The mystery movement is copy of valjoux 23. You can not change to val 72 withouth modding the case (crown is not on same line as pushers, but higher). Try a val 23 stem or swap complete movement to val 23. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiesn089 Posted June 14, 2012 Report Share Posted June 14, 2012 I have a DW mystery case lying around which had a V726 fitted, in case someone is interested. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ephry73 Posted June 14, 2012 Report Share Posted June 14, 2012 I wanted one of those a few weeks back. I was actually looking for a mystery movement to see what ticks. I know I'm stubborn and sometimes wonder if a little masochistic. E Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RWG Technical Posted June 21, 2012 Report Share Posted June 21, 2012 The movement is not a copy of anything..., it most certainly is not a V23 (or 72, the 72 is simply a 23 with a 12 hr counter added) I have tried all the stems possible and none fit. I finally found a Bestfit stem that was close and needed some tweeking in the lathe to make it fit... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akira Posted June 21, 2012 Author Report Share Posted June 21, 2012 The movement is not a copy of anything..., it most certainly is not a V23 (or 72, the 72 is simply a 23 with a 12 hr counter added) I have tried all the stems possible and none fit. I finally found a Bestfit stem that was close and needed some tweeking in the lathe to make it fit... Thanks for posting Zig. That's pretty much what Rolexaddict told me. That movement has nothing to do with a V72 nor V23. It's some bi-compax-who-knows-what. Very strange However, Donerix has been very helpful so far and I might resolve that issue. Thanks everyone for chiming in and please continue if you have more input. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donerix 2.0 Posted June 21, 2012 Report Share Posted June 21, 2012 The watch smith is on it and I spoke to him today and he thinks he will have one ready by the weekend. I left him my watch so he can make sure it will work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ephry73 Posted June 21, 2012 Report Share Posted June 21, 2012 DW did claim to have some Stems as spares and there is supposedly a V2 Mystery movement. E Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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