By-Tor Posted November 16, 2006 Report Share Posted November 16, 2006 Originally I was going to make a typical, standard review of the Omega Seamaster Chronograph, but since chrgod already made a remarkable overview of his chrono and standard SMP I decided to do something else. Lots of members have been asking whether they should get the TAG or Omega, referring to these two models. I think it's safe to say that these two watches are among the best 5 replicas that got released in 2006. Both have the same (new Asian 28.800) movement and the original 12-9-6 7750 subdial arrangement with perfect spacing... so I guess they're natural competitors also on the replica fields. There has been many comparative reviews at the places like TZ. And I never did one myself, and it sounded fun. So why not? Let's place these two best replica sports chronograph side-by-side. Both of these watches have excellent non-chronograph rep versions. While the SMP has always been a huge seller and "RWG Evergreen classic" the standard TAG Link has been going virtually unnoticeable. Wonder why, since the rep of non-chrono version is very good. Of course it's a newer model, but it has been completely overshadowed by the chronograph version. (TAG pic by Joshua). The Seamaster Chronograph surfaced just a while ago. The community literally begged the factories to do this watch and they really answered the bell this time. The replica is nothing short of excellent, no question about it. TAG Link Chronograph is a bit older model, and it came out in the summer. It was so good that it literally "robbed the bank". While TAG isn't as popular "WIS brand" as Omega, Rolex or Breitling the members have been buying this watch like hotcakes. It has been among the top-10 bestsellers in Andrew's and Joshua's rankings all through the second half of 2006. I wrote a detailed review of the TAG in August, 2nd. You can read the review HERE. 1. OVERALL ACCURACY IN OUT-OF-THE BOX CONDITION: Seamaster has the typical flaw: misaligned bezel. In theory this is very easy fix, and you can read the instructions HERE. In practice it was much tougher than on the standard SMP. The bezel is very tightly attached to the case, and I couldn't take the bezel off without using extreme violence. So I decided to deal with the alignment later. The pearl isn't perfect, either... although it's much improved from the previous versions. TAG has only one problem: Too small date window and misaligned datefont. I find it hilarious that the problem is worse with some date numbers, while others look properly centered. Easy to give the win to TAG here. It doesn't really require any modifications and it's remarkably accurate. It deserves 2 points from this category. It's totally beyond my comprehension why the factories always screw up the Omega Seamaster bezel. It's a small and fixable flaw, but extremely annoying. WINNER: TAG Points: 2 2. DIAL: Seamaster dial is outstanding. It has much improved wave pattern, very crispy and clean print and perfect date font. Actually the datewheel appears to be about 0.1mm too right in the window, but unlike TAG it's perfect on the Y-Axis. The hands, hour markers and pearl are luminous. The luminous abilities can't compare to the genuine but the watch has a good replica lume. TAG dial is very good as well. The dial print is crisp and clean. The "electric wave pattern" on the middle must have been quite a challenge for the rep factories, but it has been replicated flawlessly. Very impressive. Just like on the genuine watch only the hands are luminous. Unfortunately the rep has very weak lume on them. And as stated above the datewheel alignment problem is worse with some numbers. 13 is never anyone's lucky number. Conclusion: This is very close but Omega takes the win here. One of the best dials I've seen on a rep and the date alignment and luminova are better. WINNER: OMEGA Points: 1 3. BRACELET & CLASP Omega has the familiar Seamaster push-button clasp with diver's extension. Unlike the old standard SMP (and genuine) it uses screws instead of push-pin arrangement for resizing. Lots of members complain about this, but personally I find this method much more comfortable... and the "inaccuracy" doesn't bother me. Who the hell would check your watch bracelet pins to verify its authenticity?! But since it's not accurate we'll lower the points here by public demand. SMP doesn't have micro adjustment on the clasp but it has half-links which makes quite easy to find a comfortable fit. The "Bond" bracelet has brushed finish with polished stripes and it's been replicated very well. Quality is just as good as the "old SMP" bracelet. The clasp looks identical too, and the print is crispy. TAG has the famous Link bracelet, and it has the best quality satin finish I've seen on any replica watch. The bracelet is perfect (at least by the rep standards). The resizing method is quite "original" but can be done easily with the right instructions. Download the pdf file HERE (You need to have the Acrobat reader installed). The micro adjustment (surrounded by red box) has two positions, but nobody has figured out how to adjust it yet. Conclusion: These two are BOTH my favourite watch bracelets, but TAG still takes the cake here. The design is innovative and original, and as stated above the replication is superb. It's perfectly accurate, it even copies the original resizing method. Quite possibly the best quality rep bracelet there is. WINNER: TAG Points: 1 4. AESTHETICS: Seamaster Chronograph is not a "pretty" watch. Although the diameter is only the standard 41mm it feels a big watch. It's macho, thick and bulky bastard, very masculine. Personally the appearance of this watch is perfect for me. I have always loved the "Bond" SMP line, and Seamaster Chronograph has the looks of a extreme sports chronograph (which the genuine certainly is). The thickness of the case actually reminds me of the old hardcore Omega divers... and watches like Doxa. Suits perfectly for my large wrist. The standard "Bond" Seamaster is thinner and more dressier. Actually it's Pierce Brosnan's favourite watch with a suit. The chrono version is a pure sports watch. TAG has larger diameter (42.5mm) but it feels much smaller watch. It's thinner, has more classic lines and it's WAY more dressy and elegant. It's kind of a watch that goes perfectly with a suit. Makers of "Queer Eye for the Staight Guy" might say that Seamaster is perfect only with a wet suit. Conclusion: Apples and oranges. Although the watches are technically very similar aesthetically they're very different. Like I said Omega is a hardcore sports chronograph and TAG is a "dressy chrono"... much like Navitimer, Broad Arrow and Daytona. And these things are always in the eye of the beholder... highly subjective. WINNER: NONE Points 1-1 OVERALL WINNER: TAG Points 3-2 I think TAG takes the edge by very narrow margin here. Seamaster Chronograph is a remarkable replica watch, but it still has some minor (although fixable and almost unnoticeable) flaws. Despite the date window/font problem TAG is virtually perfect. It's possibly the best chronograph replica watch ever made. Personally, if I had to choose just one I'd probably go for the Omega. I'm a big, tall man and I usually wear "sporty" wardrobe... so the thick, rugged appearance suits better for me. But then again I'm still on a honeymoon with the SMP (I just received it), so it might affect my judgment now. Ask me again next year and I might answer differently. I'm really glad I own them both and don't have to make that decision. My best advice is to get them both while they're still available. Thanks for viewing. 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fitmic Posted November 16, 2006 Report Share Posted November 16, 2006 You've done it again! BRAVO, SUPER!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mystix Posted November 16, 2006 Report Share Posted November 16, 2006 Another excellant review, I am considering the non chrono with the trusty ETA. I love both of the chronos you have review too! So many watches so few loonies to spend Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
By-Tor Posted November 16, 2006 Author Report Share Posted November 16, 2006 Thanks guys. Forgot to mention that SMP Chrono is my second PoM watch from *Eddie Lee*. Big thanks!!! To people who might have missed it, I already reviewed the other beauty (Breitling) HERE. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RWG Technical Posted November 16, 2006 Report Share Posted November 16, 2006 Amazing and beautiful job as usual... This is so well done, that any watch magazine would love to have such a great piece to print...well done. Thanks for all your time and effort in doing this up, now I will go and read it (I print and save them for reference). RG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PAMman Posted November 16, 2006 Report Share Posted November 16, 2006 Excellent review. I have the TAG although I am not a huge TAG fan. I got one in a trade and intended to sell it but it's still here. BTW, the micro adjustment has a 9mm springbar holding the 2 parts of the clasp together. You only need to use 4 of your hands to adjust this one............1 to hold the watch, 2 to push in the both ends of the springbar at the same time and the 4th to catch the springbar when it flies out across the room (thats how I know it's 9mm - at least that's what the relacement one in mine is). I didn't even see what flew out but the local AD was able to tell me what it is and to supply another one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robertk Posted November 16, 2006 Report Share Posted November 16, 2006 Great review, By-Tor. I've got the Tag Chrono and really luv it. Just ordered the SMP. I'm sure I'll feel the same. You've done us all a big favor with this review........Again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryaku Posted November 16, 2006 Report Share Posted November 16, 2006 SPECTACULAR!! Great review, By-Tor. I've got the Tag Chrono and really luv it. Just ordered the SMP. I'm sure I'll feel the same. Same here rob, i just hope Jay and Angel won't make me wait too long. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chronus Posted November 16, 2006 Report Share Posted November 16, 2006 Despite the date window/font problem TAG is virtually perfect. It's possibly the best chronograph replica watch ever made. Great work... And by the quote above, I'm assuming that you don't have an IWC GST Chrono in titanium? I'd also say the Breitling Chrono Avenger is pretty damn close too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pugwash Posted November 16, 2006 Report Share Posted November 16, 2006 Amazing review. You're putting the rest of us to shame. Quite possibly the best quality rep bracelet there is. ... after the IWC GST Chrono. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
By-Tor Posted November 17, 2006 Author Report Share Posted November 17, 2006 BTW, the micro adjustment has a 9mm springbar holding the 2 parts of the clasp together. You only need to use 4 of your hands to adjust this one............1 to hold the watch, 2 to push in the both ends of the springbar at the same time and the 4th to catch the springbar when it flies out across the room (thats how I know it's 9mm - at least that's what the relacement one in mine is). I didn't even see what flew out but the local AD was able to tell me what it is and to supply another one. Thanks for this info. I should actually adjust it for myself... I'll give it a try. Really weird solution, that... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
By-Tor Posted November 17, 2006 Author Report Share Posted November 17, 2006 Amazing and beautiful job as usual... This is so well done, that any watch magazine would love to have such a great piece to print...well done. Thanks for all your time and effort in doing this up, now I will go and read it (I print and save them for reference). RG Thanks Ziggy. Actually I thought this was going to be my last review for quite a while... but then the Chronomat Evolution came out. They keep dragging me in... etc... Amazing review. You're putting the rest of us to shame. ... after the IWC GST Chrono. Thanks guys. Yeah, entirely forgot that. IWC GST is up there among the best as well. New batch of Navitimers aren't too far behind, either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robertk Posted November 17, 2006 Report Share Posted November 17, 2006 ......and what's coming next! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
By-Tor Posted November 17, 2006 Author Report Share Posted November 17, 2006 ......and what's coming next! Now that we have Chronomat Evolution I hope we'll get more TAGs. Aquagraph, Aquaracer 2000 Chrono, Carrera and Link Calibre 31 come to mind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bestdeals Posted November 17, 2006 Report Share Posted November 17, 2006 wow...amazing review by-tor! i'm a noob torn between the two....i'll just have to buy both! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
By-Tor Posted November 17, 2006 Author Report Share Posted November 17, 2006 wow...amazing review by-tor! i'm a noob torn between the two....i'll just have to buy both! I shoud be working in marketing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r11co Posted November 17, 2006 Report Share Posted November 17, 2006 The micro adjustment [on the TAG Link] has two positions, but nobody has figured out how to adjust it yet. Au contraire.... Look here! Oh, and it has three positions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
By-Tor Posted November 17, 2006 Author Report Share Posted November 17, 2006 Au contraire.... Look here! Oh, and it has three positions. Thanks r11co. So... your micro adjustment springbar just popped out. But is there a safe way to take it off without breaking anything. No matter how much I look at it, I can't figure out a logical way to do it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrgod Posted November 17, 2006 Report Share Posted November 17, 2006 Excellent as usual. You set a high standards for reviews! I agree that the Link is the dressier choice. The SMP is more a toolwatch. I wonder, are the Link as thick as the SMP? The thickness of the SMP makes it a bit awkward to use with a long sleeve shirt. I try to use that as an excuse to buy the Link Chono as well! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baltic Posted November 17, 2006 Report Share Posted November 17, 2006 I shoud be working in marketing. Well as I do work in Marketing I think you could have a whole new career ahead of you . Yet again you've done us proud, thanks for a genuinely interesting post Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r11co Posted November 17, 2006 Report Share Posted November 17, 2006 Thanks r11co. So... your micro adjustment springbar just popped out. But is there a safe way to take it off without breaking anything. No matter how much I look at it, I can't figure out a logical way to do it. It's easy if you enlist the help of a friend to push the paper clips in for you while you separate the sections of the clasp. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
By-Tor Posted November 18, 2006 Author Report Share Posted November 18, 2006 I wonder, are the Link as thick as the SMP? The thickness of the SMP makes it a bit awkward to use with a long sleeve shirt. I try to use that as an excuse to buy the Link Chono as well! No... Link isn't as thick. It's about the same thickness as the old standard non-chrono SMP. PS: Thanks r11co, I'll give it a try. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrgod Posted November 18, 2006 Report Share Posted November 18, 2006 No... Link isn't as thick. It's about the same thickness as the old standard non-chrono SMP. Thanks! Then, I for sure must get a Link Chrono.. Maybe the other Link Chrono version with smooth bezel and the Tachymetere scale under the glass. It is even more "dressier" than this one. The previous version had a very bad date font, but Ruby seems to have a new version with correct date font. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watchmeister Posted November 18, 2006 Report Share Posted November 18, 2006 Fabulous review. I am with you on preference though. The WIS in me just leads me toward the Omega. It would be my first Omega (rep or gen). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finepics Posted November 18, 2006 Report Share Posted November 18, 2006 Superb stuff By-Tor - I have the SMP even though I am a PAM fan first and foremost. I also have the TAG on the way too - both are far more realistic watches for a lot of us to be able to afford the gen. No way could I really have a gen PAM 201A so these are great watches as daily beaters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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