irolexu Posted February 9, 2013 Report Share Posted February 9, 2013 Hello I just recently acquired a BP 116610LN from sead. Out of the box experience was a little rough the watch arrived with a DW problem but was quickly fixed. Seems like they really fixed some major and minor issues which I will point out with a list of observations. OBSERVATIONS: PROS: Has the correct AR feature found on the genuine with "black hole" effect Has the correct skinny hour hand They got the lugs spot on perfect (IMO) The firmness in the bezel rotation is PERFECT. I have owned in the past a gen 116610 and its the same The SEL fit is second to none. It does not fit too tight like most V3 bracelets on TC, BK, and Sean cases where you have to force it on to get that nice SEL. instead it just slips right into place like a gen. Crown guards are improved Pearl has the sapphire lens cover and is nicely centered. 1:1 design. This BP model does indeed use the ball bearing system rolex uses. Dial is nicely done and the LUME is awesome! it glows the same exact color as my gen did. CONS: ways to fix these as well Date mag is too strong: Your going to have to remove the bezel assembly and when you have the gasket you will have to trim it down to factory level which you will need a factory sub gasket for reference or "rinse and repeat" method which I would not advise. My personal BP got treated with a gen crystal but honestly does not need it. I just so happened to have one sitting around for the longest time. Pearl is not secure: You will need to do 1 of 2 things here. Remove the pearl by prying it out and securely gluing it down with epoxy or super-glue which ever you like to work with the most. The other way to do it is while your sanding down your gasket you can remove the insert from the bezel fairly easy and glue it from behind. The reason this would be better is you won't have to worry about excess glue coming up from behind the pearl which no one wants to see all day! Bracelet has issues: Not much you can do here as I have not really tackled the bracelet full on. I've noticed that the glide lock clasp seems to be sloppy and loose. if you have good advice on situating the bracelet please feel free to tell us all! DW will easily bind up: Mymanmatt will be the master of this subject. I am sure he will chime in and explain his observations as we both spent the whole day with this watch organizing ideas and learning how everything comes together. What I was told is that they did indeed improve on the datewheel mechanism but not 100% there yet. CASE BACK SUCKS: It fits the rolex tool very poorly and will slip if you are not careful. It also seems like its not a perfect fit to the case either but this may vary from watch to watch. Hope you guys enjoyed my mini-review I don't usually make up reviews but hey why not try! and again I would like to publicly thank mymanmatt for all of his work and knowledge he shared with me today and his work is very top notch if you ever need something done he can do it! (CONUS too ) ON TO THE PICS! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mnicolini300 Posted February 9, 2013 Report Share Posted February 9, 2013 Also here is a pic of the bezel assembly and case. Also here is a lume shot....silly I forgot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gmtlover Posted February 9, 2013 Report Share Posted February 9, 2013 Nice review mate! Excellent write up! Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irolexu Posted February 9, 2013 Author Report Share Posted February 9, 2013 Thanks! Unfortunately I lost the pearl after this review! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
herviam Posted February 11, 2013 Report Share Posted February 11, 2013 Great review! I'm new to the forum and was wondering what BP is? I recently ordered the most recent black ceramic 116610 from Joshua at PC's. How does this rep differ? This pearl issue seems to be a major flaw for most reviews I've read. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irolexu Posted February 11, 2013 Author Report Share Posted February 11, 2013 Great review! I'm new to the forum and was wondering what BP is? I recently ordered the most recent black ceramic 116610 from Joshua at PC's. How does this rep differ? This pearl issue seems to be a major flaw for most reviews I've read. If you ordered the latest sub from him he most likely sent you the new BP model. BP is a watch manufacturer in china. Currently they made the first 1:1 subC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pjsayer Posted February 11, 2013 Report Share Posted February 11, 2013 Fantastic review buddy. Just out of interest what is the serial number on your one? I only ask as your lume is definitely bluer than mine (6M9G8Y71) - mine is more aqua blue. I have a feeling there are a couple of subtle variations from the BP factory as I've had two and each had a slightly different rehaut engraving font size. Weird. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
herviam Posted February 11, 2013 Report Share Posted February 11, 2013 If you ordered the latest sub from him he most likely sent you the new BP model. BP is a watch manufacturer in china. Currently they made the first 1:1 subC Emailed Josh and he responded... "The current sub RLSS00008 [most recent submariner on PC] I am using is the best and its exclusive to me and Andrew only . We commission the project.. Sead dont have this source for sure. The pearl is glass clad over as per the genuine.. All print is exact.." I've already ordered from Josh but am currently waiting on a review of this most recent rep model from either TT or PC. I hope the flaws you have brought up have been corrected in this model if it is not the same one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asciwhite Posted February 11, 2013 Report Share Posted February 11, 2013 Very nice review and pictures!! These flaws I can live with.. I am only going to fix the pearl when I get mine Many thanks!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
herviam Posted February 11, 2013 Report Share Posted February 11, 2013 Very nice review and pictures!! These flaws I can live with.. I am only going to fix the pearl when I get mine Many thanks!!! Please post a review as soon as you get it! Mine won't be arriving for a few weeks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irolexu Posted February 12, 2013 Author Report Share Posted February 12, 2013 Emailed Josh and he responded... "The current sub RLSS00008 [most recent submariner on PC] I am using is the best and its exclusive to me and Andrew only . We commission the project.. Sead dont have this source for sure. The pearl is glass clad over as per the genuine.. All print is exact.." I've already ordered from Josh but am currently waiting on a review of this most recent rep model from either TT or PC. I hope the flaws you have brought up have been corrected in this model if it is not the same one. If sead doesn't have the same watch as Andrew or Josh then I can only assume he does now! And they are fantastic. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archetypal Posted February 12, 2013 Report Share Posted February 12, 2013 Anyone ordered the no date version? Pics please....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irolexu Posted February 12, 2013 Author Report Share Posted February 12, 2013 I'm curious to know how good that one is. I've heard people on TRF have had a difficult time spotting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waterloosmith Posted February 13, 2013 Report Share Posted February 13, 2013 Great review i have the same watch for sale as its just to big for me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irolexu Posted February 13, 2013 Author Report Share Posted February 13, 2013 I originally had the gen but at the time I thought it was too big and sold it to keep my 16610 and now I kind of regret it but oh well this rep is so good I'm satisfied Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
watchguyusa1 Posted February 18, 2013 Report Share Posted February 18, 2013 Emailed Josh and he responded... "The current sub RLSS00008 [most recent submariner on PC] I am using is the best and its exclusive to me and Andrew only . We commission the project.. Sead dont have this source for sure. The pearl is glass clad over as per the genuine.. All print is exact.." I've already ordered from Josh but am currently waiting on a review of this most recent rep model from either TT or PC. I hope the flaws you have brought up have been corrected in this model if it is not the same one. what a Line of [censored] these guys tell us! We commission the project.." Sead dont have this source for sure." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edgematic1 Posted February 18, 2013 Report Share Posted February 18, 2013 what a Line of [censored] these guys tell us! We commission the project.." Sead dont have this source for sure." true, I've seen many dealers carrying it... nice review! thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asciwhite Posted February 18, 2013 Report Share Posted February 18, 2013 (edited) This is mine from Josh.... Piss poor spring bars, non functioning slide lock (Had to glue it to get it to sit.) But its nice to look at. Also two tiny nicks in the rehaut..... Swiss movement keeping good time though +3-4 secs a day.... Blue lume is a bitch to ignite... It needs plenty of light to charge.. It lasts trough the night though... Edited February 18, 2013 by ASCIWhite Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calebt Posted February 18, 2013 Report Share Posted February 18, 2013 This is mine from Josh.... [censored] poor spring bars, non functioning slide lock (Had to glue it to get it to sit.) But its nice to look at. Also two tiny nicks in the rehaut..... Swiss movement keeping good time though +3-4 secs a day.... Blue lume is a [censored] to ignite... It needs plenty of light to charge.. It lasts trough the night though... Just gave the go ahead on mine from josh. I opted for the Asian clone movement, I've had good luck with them in the past. I usually change the spring bars and lock tight all the screws. I hope the slide lock works OK though. Sent from my Nexus 4 using Tapatalk 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irolexu Posted February 18, 2013 Author Report Share Posted February 18, 2013 Some are put together so well and others are complete lemons like mine turned out to be so you have to be particular about the QC pics and ask the TD to personally inspect the functionality of the bracelet etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedy1969 Posted March 7, 2013 Report Share Posted March 7, 2013 This is mine from Josh.... [censored] poor spring bars, non functioning slide lock (Had to glue it to get it to sit.) But its nice to look at. Also two tiny nicks in the rehaut..... Swiss movement keeping good time though +3-4 secs a day.... Blue lume is a [censored] to ignite... It needs plenty of light to charge.. It lasts trough the night though... IMG_5573.JPG Any chance you can provide a link to the pearl mod? Just wanna know how to remove the bezel and how to "NOT" screw up the glue job and have extra ugly glue sticking out the sides... Guidance from those that are more knowledgeable would be greatly appreciated! Cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sputim Posted March 9, 2013 Report Share Posted March 9, 2013 Would appreciate that aswell to get "how-to" for the pearl mod since I don't wanna lose it. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1932polo Posted May 21, 2013 Report Share Posted May 21, 2013 Yes please, a tutorial on this would be great also on how to oil the bracelet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GWP123 Posted November 10, 2013 Report Share Posted November 10, 2013 I just ordered mine from Andrew...I am noticing however there is big spacing between Oyster - Perpetual - Date. Is this the correct spacing given the year this rep is modeled after? Or is this a flaw?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
live1 Posted November 10, 2013 Report Share Posted November 10, 2013 its correct for gods sake.take a look at different gen dials man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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