Is it possible a PAM036 PAM177 or PAM040B with automatic movement

[grihander]

Hi to everybody I'm from Barcelona and this is my 2nd post here.

 

I've reading and learning a lot about Panerais and now I know more or less what I want looking for my perfect PAM:

 

-I like the look of authentic titanium brushed case (are titanium cases a scratch magnet?)

-I like to have a seconds hand @9

-I like sandwich dial instead of sausage

-I like it to be superlumed.

-I don't know if it's better glass caseback or metal.

-I don't know which color of lume/numbers choose, white, beige, light orange, please suggestions.

-I like flat glass, not domed

-I want 44mm size or less, I have small wrist.

-Hands type? Tobacco dial is good looking ?

 

 

-I don't like manual winding, automatic is a MUST.

-I don't like the models with the date or magnifying cyclope

-I would want to have Sea Gull ST2530 movement because I've readed that are excellent and good price (they usually are used with PR @5 models) and also has date window ;( Are these complications a problem and should choose another automatic seagull more simple ?

-I like PAM036, PAM177, PAM040B for example. Can these models be assembled with automatic movement ?

-I can live with a PR reserve indicator if it's the only way to have automatic....

 

Please suggest me more titanium models that are like 036 or are more how I described my perfect PAM above

 

Thank you for your comments

Edited February 20, 2013 by grihander

[alt.watch.obsessive]

This probably does not meet all your requirements, but check out a PAM 240J from Trusty, Josh, or others.

[peterpotamus]

so you are looking for a PAM 351 (44mm) or the 392 (42mm) forget the 392, it's steel not titanium

Edited February 21, 2013 by peterpotamus

[Watchmeister]

Yeah, the ones you listed whcih come with manual movements will be very difficult if not impossible to retrofit for automatic unless you go with one of the 2892 based automatics..

[grihander]

The PAM240J looks so good, titanium and atomatic. Is it possible to mod it changing the dial for a sanwich one ? I also want a dial with no date window, for example the Pam036 dial would fit ?

 

Thanks

[Watchmeister]

Automatic without a date window does not exist in Panerai world other than the 2 register chronographs (212, etc.). If you want sandwich dial without date I believe you are stuck with a manual wind but someone else can correct me if I am wrong.

[w0lf]

Not with seconds at 9.  You can do center seconds or a base setup.

 

You will need to combine parts from two watches:

 

For a base Ti without center secs:

 

H-F PAM240

Remove the seconds @9 pinion & date change mechanism

Jackson Tse MM104 crystal (great clarity sapphire that will fit H-F case and has no cyclops)

PAM112 or PAM219 sandwich dial, snip the dial feet & install with dial dots.

 

The bad news is you will still have the date setting crown position, but then again all 2-register chrono reps like 288, 212, 253, 214, 286, 332 have this extra crown position and folks don't seem to mind.

 

For a SS w/ center seconds

 

N-F PAM29

remove GMT & datechange stuff

Jackson Tse MM104 crystal

PAM112 or PAM219 sandwich dial, snip the dial feet & install with dial dots