Best ROLEX GMT MASTER Ceramic

[dilingeri]

Could somebody help and tell me which is the current TOP VERSION of GMT MASTER II Ceramic? I've done some research in this forum. Read great reviews and comparisons. Problem is that , as time passes new versions come out and i m kind of confused. For example i found a best version from two different TD's here and one mentioned it as 1. Asian movement (Nickel Plated Asia Clone (Rolex 3186) Automatic, 25J, 28800 bph ) , priced 326,00$ , while the other mentioned it as 2. Swiss movement (Swiss Eta 2836-2 Automatic movement) , priced 358,00$ The price difference isn't much, if its about the Asian vs Swiss movement. (In IWC Asian vs Swiss movement is huge difference) double or triple price. How many versions has GMT Master reached? I only see V2. And finally where can i find it SUOERLUMED? Thank you guys ( hope i m not busting balls) with all the "best edition thread issue"

[panerai153]

No matter which one you buy, the so called "Swiss" ETA or the Asian version, accuracy and longivity will be greatly enhanced by a good service. most are drt and dirty!

[gmtlover]

Andrew now sells the latest BP GMT IIc with AR'ed cyclops. Model 0083 and 0082. Description not yet adjusted.

[freddy333]

Andrew's description for 0083 does not specifically indicate that the cyclops is AR'd, but it is in the pics at the bottom. However, the pics include 2 watches, 1 with AR & the other without it & he does not say whether the AR'd watch is a new rep or a gen for comparison. Also, the AR'd watch looks to have the correct handstack order & his description does say the GMT is independently adjustable. If 0083 does have proper AR on the cyclops & the correct handstack order, this would be a definite move in the right direction.

[dilingeri]

I thought IHO is more reliable

[gmtlover]

The one with AR is a gen for comparison ;-) He hasn't updated his pics and description yet. You can mail him if you don't believe me. It is still ICHS, but now superlume and AR'ed cyclops

[panerai153]

Freddy, If the GMt hand is independently adjustable, that would be the same movement or module as the old watches,right? My GMT IIc has an ETA 2836 and it's got and independently adjustable GMT hand. If they come up with a Correct hand stack and  a sdjustable hour hand, that woulr really be a killer!!!

[freddy333]

The original run of GMTIIC reps (5 years ago) had CHSs & GMT hands that functioned just like the gens. Unfortunately, many reported the movements to be time-bombs, but, fortunately, mine has continued to run without problems

[panerai153]

Does yours have and independently settable hour hand or a GMT hand? Doesn't the gen GMTIIC have a settable hour hand, like the 16710's?

[freddy333]

Yes. It works exactly like the gen GMTIIC.

[sneed12]

Yes. It works exactly like the gen GMTIIC.

 

"Exactly"? 

 

So the hour hand goes in either direction and the date will jump in either direction when the hour hand crosses midnight?

[freddy333]

Yes. There is a thread here somewhere that contains a short video I made showing how the GMT function on my rep works (you can probably search it out), but, due to its finicky movement, it is best not use the GMT function.

[sneed12]

Yes. There is a thread here somewhere that contains a short video I made showing how the GMT function on my rep works (you can probably search it out), but, due to its finicky movement, it is best not use the GMT function.

 

Interesting. The new CHS movements don't do that, but on the other hand they seem much more robust.

[panerai153]

Yes. There is a thread here somewhere that contains a short video I made showing how the GMT function on my rep works (you can probably search it out), but, due to its finicky movement, it is best not use the GMT function.

It's too bad they could not solve the problems of that movement,that would be a great movement to build a "correct" GMTIIC or a 16710. You can build a pretty close rep of both of thoes, but in most cases, the ICHS is a sure tell to anyone who is familiar with the genuine models.

Maybe with the 3135 clones coming out, someone will build a reliable GMT version of the movement.

[danielv2000]

I would love a ceramic GMT II with CHS. I will never, I mean NEVER try to pull off a ICHS GMT rep.

[albert_pg]

Hello! I'm a newbie to this forum and I've been looking for a rep 116710 for the past couple of months. I saw a lot of "TT", "BK", "Andrew", "Josh" all of which I don't know/understand. Can anyone point to me a website/thread/email address and help me out?

 

And lastly, does anyone know about this? http://www.classywatches.net/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=295_429&products_id=1551

They even have a youtube video of the watch http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c7Edz8X9bec

 

I appreciate any kind of help I can get

[SCM]

Hello! I'm a newbie to this forum and I've been looking for a rep 116710 for the past couple of months. I saw a lot of "TT", "BK", "Andrew", "Josh" all of which I don't know/understand. Can anyone point to me a website/thread/email address and help me out?

 

And lastly, does anyone know about this? http://www.classywatches.net/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=295_429&products_id=1551

They even have a youtube video of the watch http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c7Edz8X9bec

 

I appreciate any kind of help I can get

 

 

TT and Andrew are the same dealer. They are on the trusted dealer section.

 

Andrew is Perfect Clones. Trusted dealer section.

 

BK is BKLM. Trusted dealer section.

[albert_pg]

TT and Andrew are the same dealer. They are on the trusted dealer section.

 

Andrew is Perfect Clones. Trusted dealer section.

 

BK is BKLM. Trusted dealer section.

 

So I just shoot them a PM? Do you know how transactions with them normally work? What about pictures of the watch?

Thanks for your quick response!

[SCM]

So I just shoot them a PM? Do you know how transactions with them normally work? What about pictures of the watch?

Thanks for your quick response!

Andrew and Josh have websites.

 

You email or PM BK.

[rek001]

I have a GMT IIc I got from Joshua about 6 months ago. Pretty nice watch but the bezel insert numbers are WAY too thin, and the insert itself is a grayish black - really bugs me.

Is there a more true to gen bezel insert I could buy that's not very expensive?

 

Sorry for thread diversion.

[gmtlover]

BP version ;-)

[albert_pg]

Andrew and Josh have websites.

 

You email or PM BK.

 

Thanks!

[freddy333]

I have a GMT IIc I got from Joshua about 6 months ago. Pretty nice watch but the bezel insert numbers are WAY too thin, and the insert itself is a grayish black - really bugs me.

Is there a more true to gen bezel insert I could buy that's not very expensive?

I recall seeing some 'ceramic' aftermarket GMT inserts for sale on ebay a month or so ago, but I think the seller may have been our old friend, Mr. Slimeball. So buyer beware.

[rek001]

Thanks freddy.

Anywhere else I can find an insert?

Any TD have a nice one on their offering?

[dilingeri]

Guys ,

 

Which maker is the best for the GMT Master Ceramic? (especially Two-Tone or YG)?

 

Super confusing

 

Indeed Andrew says now that the 

ROLGMT085 is the best version

http://www.ttw888.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=1_5&products_id=9543

 

although

 

 

ROLGMT029 

http://www.ttw888.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=1_5&products_id=5758

 

 

and

 

 

ROLGMT021D

http://www.ttw888.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=1_5&products_id=3428

 

 

Seem to be the ultimate super maximun ultra best version.

 

How can one judge finally?

And BP or noob factory? ( i. e puretime, timeshop etc.)

 

 

And what is this with the serials? M , V, Z SERIAL? WHATS THE DIFFERENCE AND THEY MENTION IT?

 

 

Thanks ,

 

 

D.

Edited April 5, 2013 by dilingeri