GTEYE Posted April 13, 2013 Report Share Posted April 13, 2013 I have just purchased my first replica watch from Toro Bravos - a Breitling Superocean Abyss with an asian automatic movement. On arrival, a week ago, everything was fine. However after wearing the watch only twice, it has now stopped and won't restart either by winding or by movement. I am obviously gutted. I have emailed Toro, but no reply. Any advice given on what I should do now would be much appreciated! Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freddy333 Posted April 13, 2013 Report Share Posted April 13, 2013 1st off, most rep watches contain used or unserviced movements. 2nd, I have never heard of Toro Bravos & most rep sellers (not listed on RWG) should be considered rogues. Depending on what you paid for it, I think you have 3 choices - keep trying Toro Bravos to see if they will replace the watch, take it to a local watchmaker for a complete overhaul (disassembly, cleaning & oiling) or replace it with a watch from 1 of the sellers listed on our site (I would recommend Trusty or PerfectClones). But, before you do anything, I would recommend reading Toad's Guide to Newbies, which is pinned atop the Introduction forum. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kbh Posted April 13, 2013 Report Share Posted April 13, 2013 Toro's quite well known on the several of the other forums. I'm sure he'll solve your problem, although I don't know why you'd post it here and not on the forum that he's a TD on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freddy333 Posted April 13, 2013 Report Share Posted April 13, 2013 Only as a last resort (before throwing a watch out) would I whack a watch against anything. 1 of the 1st rules you learn in watchmaking is to never strike a watch or force anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fraggle42 Posted April 13, 2013 Report Share Posted April 13, 2013 I have never heard of Toro Bravos http://www.rwgforum.net/forum/274-torobravo/ Ok, so it hasn't got the 's' at the end, but I would assume it's the same person / people. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russ1965 Posted April 13, 2013 Report Share Posted April 13, 2013 Most, if not all TD's are pretty lax with responding to email. I'm a (paid) member of 3 forums and this issue is the same across all 3. Perhaps we (enthusiasts) have become complacent with our expectations of tardy responses to email? I'm sure some of you are waiting to 'tear me a new one' on account of this post, but I remain of the opinion that these dealers (whether TD or not) have to get their collective acts together and start responding to messages in a timely manner. Our complacency is only encouraging their rather reticent behaviour. I'll step off my soap box now. Russ. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flipper81 Posted April 13, 2013 Report Share Posted April 13, 2013 I've bought two from toro, he will respond to your email just ensure you email the correct address (not qc email) he also garuntees the watches so he will help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fraggle42 Posted April 13, 2013 Report Share Posted April 13, 2013 I think it's just cultural differences Russ. The dealers communicate when they have something to say, and think nothing of it when nothing happens for weeks / months and they don't communicate. As to stuff lost in the post, unless we're happy paying extra for tracked postage with expensive shippers like DHL / UPS, I don't see what the dealers can do apart from wait a few weeks (6 or so) to make sure it isn't just held up somewhere, and then proceed. These things still bug me, my latest rep purchase took ages but got here in the end. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russ1965 Posted April 13, 2013 Report Share Posted April 13, 2013 @fraggle42 I concur with the cultural differences argument/perspective. But..............when it comes to online retail, this argument does wear thin (at least to me). You have to be more competitive if you expect repeat business and some TD's like Reg @ Narikaa, Joshua @ Perfect Clones and Mary & Rochest from Watch International have this down 'pat'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freddy333 Posted April 13, 2013 Report Share Posted April 13, 2013 http://www.rwgforum.net/forum/274-torobravo/ Ok, so it hasn't got the 's' at the end, but I would assume it's the same person / people. Oops, I was not even aware this dealer was listed here. You really do learn something new every day. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legend Posted April 14, 2013 Report Share Posted April 14, 2013 http://www.rwgforum.net/forum/274-torobravo/ Ok, so it hasn't got the 's' at the end, but I would assume it's the same person / people. I was wondering when someone would speak up for torobravossss. Sorry I mean torobravo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest suntor Posted April 15, 2013 Report Share Posted April 15, 2013 (edited) Toro's quite well known on the several of the other forums. I'm sure he'll solve your problem, although I don't know why you'd post it here and not on the forum that he's a TD on. _____________________________________________________ Edited April 15, 2013 by Stephane No advertising here please. Consider yourself warned now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legend Posted April 15, 2013 Report Share Posted April 15, 2013 Toro's quite well known on the several of the other forums. I'm sure he'll solve your problem, although I don't know why you'd post it here and not on the forum that he's a TD on. _____________________________________________________ wireless bridge I think Toro IS a TD here on RWG. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kmcking2000 Posted April 26, 2013 Report Share Posted April 26, 2013 Toro is very well known. He is Toro Bravo's. He was on vacation during the holiday in China. His website was down due to some issues. He is back, and he is very professional. He always backs his items. I would email him again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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