gran Posted August 5, 2013 Report Share Posted August 5, 2013 looks good to me. But still no super-rep Yes! We might as well wait for the V5 before pulling the trigger. We have all the time in the world. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watchmeister Posted August 5, 2013 Report Share Posted August 5, 2013 If we have waited this long why get impatient now. I must confess I am totoally confused as to what is what. I take it Noob 4.1 is the updated Angus Toro 3.5 and the Chanel 4.0 is the one with the better date font. ANy guesses who will make version 5? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gran Posted August 5, 2013 Report Share Posted August 5, 2013 If we have waited this long why get impatient now. I must confess I am totoally confused as to what is what. I take it Noob 4.1 is the updated Angus Toro 3.5 and the Chanel 4.0 is the one with the better date font. ANy guesses who will make version 5? Both will chanel 5.0 and noob 5.1 obviously and lets not forget the BP4.9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lfovco Posted August 5, 2013 Report Share Posted August 5, 2013 For me the biggest issue would be the quality of screw down tube and crown. How long will it last before the watch is garbage since we cannot get these parts.That is the major problem across all reps. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk HD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
recoop Posted August 5, 2013 Report Share Posted August 5, 2013 speaking of which, how long does a diver last? anyone? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gran Posted August 5, 2013 Report Share Posted August 5, 2013 speaking of which, how long does a diver last? anyone? Divers retire young........ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watchmeister Posted August 6, 2013 Report Share Posted August 6, 2013 Divers retire young........ Especially when their inner tachy bezel isn't functioning correctly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1932polo Posted August 7, 2013 Report Share Posted August 7, 2013 I'm posting the New V4 for sale (catch and release) if any one is interested in getting first dibs excellent lume bezel alignment is spot on. selling for retail what i paid. EU preferably uk I'd even swap for a V3.5 or V4.1 in decent condition Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
recoop Posted August 7, 2013 Report Share Posted August 7, 2013 I'm posting the New V4 for sale (catch and release) if any one is interested in getting first dibs excellent lume bezel alignment is spot on. selling for retail what i paid. EU preferably uk I'd even swap for a V3.5 or V4.1 in decent condition can you see my QC pics above, do they confirm your assessment on the V4? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1932polo Posted August 7, 2013 Report Share Posted August 7, 2013 can you see my QC pics above, do they confirm your assessment on the V4? Looks good! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpohl402 Posted August 7, 2013 Report Share Posted August 7, 2013 (edited) All the differences are so tiny from looking at the 3.5, 4 and 4.1 versions. Exactly! Minor Edited August 7, 2013 by jpohl402 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1932polo Posted August 7, 2013 Report Share Posted August 7, 2013 Well I mentioned earlier in this topic I received my V4 today from Toro today. Anyway, as first impressions go I was impressed. I managed to get Toro to hand pick this one for me, felt solid, lume was excellent, bezel alignment was spot on strap and buckle were also nice! Now here's the BUT! The hour hand was a dead giveaway, the date font wasn't very good either, if you crossed your eyes and looked at it then maybe it would be acceptable. There were no "tails" on any of the date numbers (which is a must) didnt have that crisp finish like gen or even Noob. Credit to Noob, as he has managed to tackle both these issues from as early as V3 (which i also owned). The AR on cyclops seemed non existent, put it this way. If I was told it wasn't AR treated I wouldn't be surprised. Subsequently I sold my V4 and have now purchased the V4.1 awaiting QC from Toro. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gran Posted August 7, 2013 Report Share Posted August 7, 2013 Well I mentioned earlier in this topic I received my V4 today from Toro today. Anyway, as first impressions go I was impressed. I managed to get Toro to hand pick this one for me, felt solid, lume was excellent, bezel alignment was spot on strap and buckle were also nice! Now here's the BUT! The hour hand was a dead giveaway, the date font wasn't very good either, if you crossed your eyes and looked at it then maybe it would be acceptable. There were no "tails" on any of the date numbers (which is a must) didnt have that crisp finish like gen or even Noob. Credit to Noob, as he has managed to tackle both these issues from as early as V3 (which i also owned). The AR on cyclops seemed non existent, put it this way. If I was told it wasn't AR treated I wouldn't be surprised. Subsequently I sold my V4 and have now purchased the V4.1 awaiting QC from Toro. So it is not good at all this V4 it seems. What a shame. I need to take a look at this hour hand, how could that be messed up? here is two different V4 i was offered...seems hour hand differs? First V4 with poor lume application (at higer mag) Second V4 inferior U in PIGUET (at higer mag) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1932polo Posted August 8, 2013 Report Share Posted August 8, 2013 So it is not good at all this V4 it seems. What a shame. I need to take a look at this hour hand, how could that be messed up? here is two different V4 i was offered...seems hour hand differs? First V4 with poor lume application (at higer mag) Second V4 inferior U in PIGUET (at higer mag) (I like that Pam-esk case protector BTW) The main issue with the hour hand is the spacing of the lume the "polished bars" that separate the lume into three sections within the hour hand should be thinner, Noob has had it right from the jump. Once you notice it (after looking at a gen) it will bug you! trust me! Below is a QC pic i received today from toro which shows the (almost) correct thickness within the hr hand. BUT! Is it just me or does the "3" not look as good as V3 and V3.5 I will most certainly be requesting a date wheel to change at a later stage. I actually rejected this version as the bezel alignment is off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gran Posted August 8, 2013 Report Share Posted August 8, 2013 (I like that Pam-esk case protector BTW) The main issue with the hour hand is the spacing of the lume the "polished bars" that separate the lume into three sections within the hour hand should be thinner, Noob has had it right from the jump. Once you notice it (after looking at a gen) it will bug you! trust me! Below is a QC pic i received today from toro which shows the (almost) correct thickness within the hr hand. BUT! Is it just me or does the "3" not look as good as V3 and V3.5 I will most certainly be requesting a date wheel to change at a later stage. I actually rejected this version as the bezel alignment is off. 照片 1.JPG great input, and yes the date is not well coied on the 4.1 it seems...maybe font is dependent on the movement selected? what you say about this V4? other than the hour hand V4 details lugs/connectors go into the case...is this a trademark of the V4? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1932polo Posted August 8, 2013 Report Share Posted August 8, 2013 great input, and yes the date is not well coied on the 4.1 it seems...maybe font is dependent on the movement selected? what you say about this V4? other than the hour hand V4 details lugs/connectors go into the case...is this a trademark of the V4? It looks good! Bezel markers look aligned (I think V4 maker has been very consistent with this, arguably better than Noobs). In regards to the lug connectors its a tricky one, that all depends on how you're holding the watch, when the watch is on wrist, they should be raised out of the case I didn't notice that on my V4 as an issue to be honest. I think in hand you wont be disappointed with it. You really have to give credit where due to this maker considering this is their first version of the watch. My approved QC V4.1 Although their is a mark on the 4 marker urgh!! The bezel alignment is fantastic, lume application is acceptable and best of all the bezel screws actually looked slightly recessed. The fabric at the 1 o clock bezel screw has been removed. I'm lightly dubious about the hr hand considering its a noob version but hey. A rep is a rep Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gran Posted August 8, 2013 Report Share Posted August 8, 2013 It looks good! Bezel markers look aligned (I think V4 maker has been very consistent with this, arguably better than Noobs). In regards to the lug connectors its a tricky one, that all depends on how you're holding the watch, when the watch is on wrist, they should be raised out of the case I didn't notice that on my V4 as an issue to be honest. I think in hand you wont be disappointed with it. You really have to give credit where due to this maker considering this is their first version of the watch. My approved QC V4.1 Although their is a mark on the 4 marker urgh!! The bezel alignment is fantastic, lume application is acceptable and best of all the bezel screws actually looked slightly recessed. The fabric at the 1 o clock bezel screw has been removed. I'm lightly dubious about the hr hand considering its a noob version but hey. A rep is a rep Yes your V4.1 bezel screws look quite good and similarly repressed. Lets see if i ever get my V4, sead is as slow as molasses in responding. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cougar1 Posted August 8, 2013 Report Share Posted August 8, 2013 That looks great Gran, must get you to do my QC if I pick one up ...I think all these 4.1s look pretty good, some are saying minimal improvements over 3.5, but that is if compared to an absolute top notch 3.5. Obviously many have a poor memory, as this was an example of some of the shiite that was on offer for a few months at the start of the year, 4.1 is a huge upgrade imo: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1932polo Posted August 8, 2013 Report Share Posted August 8, 2013 Yes your V4.1 bezel screws look quite good and similarly repressed. Lets see if i ever get my V4, sead is as slow as molasses in responding. Hahaha! I can most certainly agree with that! I'd honestly try Toro, I literally have back an forth email convos with him even with the massive time difference, he's very on the ball. Offers an almost "personal" service I've made 3 purchases off him in the space of two weeks. His shipping time is also very good 3 days from china which is pretty much unheard of. I've used Sead as he sometimes he has stock in the UK which is super useful for me (as I live in the UK) but as you mentioned the responses aren't the most rapid, but I guess thats the game! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gran Posted August 9, 2013 Report Share Posted August 9, 2013 That looks great Gran, must get you to do my QC if I pick one up ...I think all these 4.1s look pretty good, some are saying minimal improvements over 3.5, but that is if compared to an absolute top notch 3.5. Obviously many have a poor memory, as this was an example of some of the shiite that was on offer for a few months at the start of the year, 4.1 is a huge upgrade imo: Bezel lume disaster... but that date font aint bad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gran Posted August 9, 2013 Report Share Posted August 9, 2013 Hahaha! I can most certainly agree with that! I'd honestly try Toro, I literally have back an forth email convos with him even with the massive time difference, he's very on the ball. Offers an almost "personal" service I've made 3 purchases off him in the space of two weeks. His shipping time is also very good 3 days from china which is pretty much unheard of. I've used Sead as he sometimes he has stock in the UK which is super useful for me (as I live in the UK) but as you mentioned the responses aren't the most rapid, but I guess thats the game! Toro sounds better Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1932polo Posted August 12, 2013 Report Share Posted August 12, 2013 Toro sounds better Received my 4.1 today! Definitely the way to go IMO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gran Posted August 12, 2013 Report Share Posted August 12, 2013 Sead has not been on RG since08-10-2013 07:47 PM...not a word from him...is supermirror on vacation??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1932polo Posted August 12, 2013 Report Share Posted August 12, 2013 Sead has not been on RG since08-10-2013 07:47 PM...not a word from him...is supermirror on vacation??? I received an email from him on the 10th... no mention of a break. Did you place an order? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gran Posted August 12, 2013 Report Share Posted August 12, 2013 I received an email from him on the 10th... no mention of a break. Did you place an order? Yes! I am just exaggerating i hope Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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