bluezach Posted September 28, 2013 Report Share Posted September 28, 2013 Hello everyone, greatly appreciate the help. I have just purchased a watch on eBay, for $1450 US for a carrera CV2010-1 and the auction said it comes with box and papers. once it arrived the papers were not attached and so i contacted the seller and asked him to send them to me. he has responded by saying he made a mistake and this watch has no papers. he has offered a full refund or alternatively 210 NZ dollars back and i keep the watch. but this has now made me think the watch is fake. can anyone have a look at the images and tell me if this is real or not. remember this is the cv2010-1 (the early model) thanks for your time and responses everyone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSTEEL Posted September 28, 2013 Report Share Posted September 28, 2013 I'm not too familiar with this particular Carrera model, but if you can get a photo of the bracelet clasp area front and rear with the clasp closed, I can tell you if the bracelet is a replica of genuine. Also if you can get a shot of the movement with the case back off, this will help too. I will email a friend who has the gen of this model, and ask him to take a look for you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chaw6125 Posted September 28, 2013 Report Share Posted September 28, 2013 Gen end links for sure. Date font is correct and rotor too. To be honest I have never seen a CV2010 with a case back that says CV2010. They normally have CV2013 and LY3487 as the serial. From the pics (viewed from my iPhone) it is hard to say 100% but I would be leaning to gen. You should be able to see the "25 jewels Swiss made" bit through the glass case back. Let me know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSTEEL Posted September 28, 2013 Report Share Posted September 28, 2013 And my friend has spoken Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
icoopernicus Posted October 3, 2013 Report Share Posted October 3, 2013 I agree with Chaw, this watch is Gen. The 41mm Carrera reps all have the CV2014 case back engraving, if I'm not mistaken, I know my CV2017 rep sure does. If it is a rep then it is a franken with gen movement and dial, case back, rotor, bracelet (end links for sure), etc. I can see the decorated bridges on the movement, the date wheel font is not A7750 and the Chrono subdial bezels also look gen, the rep bezels are a little too thick and actually touch the '12' and '6' markers, there is a clear gap on your watch. The dial printing on your watch is also a nice bright white, the reps have a much greyer looking (silver) dial text. All in all, you got a great deal on a great watch, I wouldn't worry about the papers. I don't know why he would offer your money back and let you keep the watch though because it is definitely Gen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ceejay Posted October 3, 2013 Report Share Posted October 3, 2013 Without the papers there is also the possibility that the watch could be stolen or a insurance scam. I personally wouldn't be happy receiving a watch that had been advertised with papers and delivered without them. If it was an international transaction I wouldn't be too worried but if it was a national sale I would get the watch checked out. Good luck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
icoopernicus Posted October 3, 2013 Report Share Posted October 3, 2013 hmm, stolen, I hadn't considered that. As far as I'm concerned there is no doubt that it is gen, however ceejay makes a good point as to traceability of the item. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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