imajedi Posted May 20, 2014 Report Share Posted May 20, 2014 Very nice sir. Is it a simple upgrade? H3 is shorter than h4? Very nice. Easy to do I imagine? H4 is the ideal option? Thanks Sent from my HTC One_M8 using Tapatalk Yes, H3 is shorter than H4. I think H4 looks exactly like gen IMO but others will have a better idea if H3 is better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ado213 Posted May 20, 2014 Report Share Posted May 20, 2014 You miss the point, H3 is obviously lower than H4, however a 2892-2 and a gen Omega 2500 movement has a lower stem height than a 2824-2 or 2836-2 If you use 2824-2 or 2836-2 then you will be ok without the additional dial spacer, however if you want a Super Franken and use the 2892 or 2500 omega gen movement you will still need an additional dial spacer to get the stem to align with the existing case tube. The additional mod to get the gen case tube and crow to fit is not easy to do unless you have the correct tooling. Same goes for gen (functional) He valve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justudor Posted May 20, 2014 Report Share Posted May 20, 2014 Great dialogue going on here and good info for all. Yes, H3 is shorter than H4. I think H4 looks exactly like gen IMO but others will have a better idea if H3 is better. Thanks! Take a look at this thread from RWI, this is a far better option for your tube and crown fitting.http://www.replica-watch.info/vb/showthread.php?t=182364 Thanks Adrian - You miss the point, H3 is obviously lower than H4, however a 2892-2 and a gen Omega 2500 movement has a lower stem height than a 2824-2 or 2836-2 If you use 2824-2 or 2836-2 then you will be ok without the additional dial spacer, however if you want a Super Franken and use the 2892 or 2500 omega gen movement you will still need an additional dial spacer to get the stem to align with the existing case tube. The additional mod to get the gen case tube and crow to fit is not easy to do unless you have the correct tooling. Same goes for gen (functional) He valve So, a H3 or H4 is fine on the 2824/6 movement. H4 being higher and more accurate? Yes, it looks like such a challenge to do! *sigh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imajedi Posted May 21, 2014 Report Share Posted May 21, 2014 A couple photos of the 2824-2 H4 with gen dial and no dial spacer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justudor Posted May 21, 2014 Report Share Posted May 21, 2014 Nice! It does make a nice difference I think. Do you know if you have to remove much to fit the pinion? Sent from my HTC One_M8 using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lartamia Posted May 21, 2014 Report Share Posted May 21, 2014 This is mine, H3, gen dial, no dialspacer 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lartamia Posted May 21, 2014 Report Share Posted May 21, 2014 ...and 2824-2 'cause Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maszie Posted May 21, 2014 Report Share Posted May 21, 2014 Here is photo of my franken PO with H4. Compared to a gen PO H4 could be a little bit too high but I'm not sure. So either H3 or H4 would be an big improvement compared to the standard 2824. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justudor Posted May 21, 2014 Report Share Posted May 21, 2014 Yes. It looks great. A nice touch and look gen or not! Here is how mine sits on my black and white. Might order 2 CP and install onto pumpkin and this one. Sent from my GT-I9305 using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ado213 Posted May 23, 2014 Report Share Posted May 23, 2014 2824-2 without dial spacer ??, wow bet your date change is a little stiff !!. I can only comment on swiss eta 2892 and H3 pinions are definitely high enough and appear correct when fitted. H4 look too high on a 2892, so had to change back to H3. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justudor Posted June 9, 2014 Report Share Posted June 9, 2014 Sorry guys, so is H4 or H3 more suitable for 2824 movement? Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imajedi Posted June 9, 2014 Report Share Posted June 9, 2014 2824-2 without dial spacer ??, wow bet your date change is a little stiff !!. I can only comment on swiss eta 2892 and H3 pinions are definitely high enough and appear correct when fitted. H4 look too high on a 2892, so had to change back to H3. Nope, the date change is perfect. There is obviously no DWO or anything like that so the date wheel sits perfectly below the dial with no spacer without rubbing. I actually tried it with a dial spacer and it left too big a gap between the date disk and dial. Never got to the part of trying to insert the crown and stem with the dial spacer so not sure if the dial spacer would of affected the height of the movement enough to prevent the stem from inserting. Not sure if H3 or H4 is closer to gen. I went H4 because TC offers them already installed. $125 and about three days and you're ready to go. With that said, I think it looks perfect. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justudor Posted June 13, 2014 Report Share Posted June 13, 2014 Phew, tube installed and stem cut to fit. I swear the crown isn't sitting as flat as it should. That is, against the case. But it could just be my perception. NEED to do this cannon pinion. I can't believe it bothers me so much! Sent from my HTC One_M8 using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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