Ticktick Posted April 22, 2014 Report Share Posted April 22, 2014 I'm searching for a gen spec crystal for Rolex Seadweller 16600. Clark's does not look like a gen because the angle of the bevel seems to be totally wrong. What's about the 25-286 crystal from WSO? The picture on the bay does not show many details. Has anyone ever tried this crystal type? Cheers Andi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbane883 Posted April 22, 2014 Report Share Posted April 22, 2014 Is this for a rep or gen? If it's gen, i believe you need the 25-285. The gen retaining ring assembly is nothing like the rep 16600 for what it's worth. It's a 3 part system. If its a rep (or other) TC makes a 25-286: http://blog.tc-sub.com/2012/05/45-tc-rolex-25-286-20-mm-crystal.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ticktick Posted April 22, 2014 Author Report Share Posted April 22, 2014 I know about the 16600 construction. I'm planning to mod a SSD V2 rep and installing a gen spec crystal. I know this will be hard work but I've got a lathe and many time, too. The problem of the rep crystal is the incorrect angle of the top bevel. Also the rounded top edge is missing. Cheers Andi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ado213 Posted April 23, 2014 Report Share Posted April 23, 2014 The TC and Clark crystals will not fit if your modding the case to take gen, gen crystal is 3mm thick. The 16600 has a three part xtal assembly, the rehaut being removeable?. Correct me if I'm wrong not handled a gen Picture courtesy of Sconhead Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deokhoon jun Posted April 23, 2014 Report Share Posted April 23, 2014 No you cant. I tried all kind of crystal on ssd; WSO, gen, clark and even bp. Its totally different. Diameter is smaller than others. Just buy new bp seadweller. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ado213 Posted April 23, 2014 Report Share Posted April 23, 2014 Anybody wanting the case machined to accept gen xtal can contact me, if they need help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danielv2000 Posted April 23, 2014 Report Share Posted April 23, 2014 No you cant. I tried all kind of crystal on ssd; WSO, gen, clark and even bp. Its totally different. Diameter is smaller than others. Just buy new bp seadweller. I remember your build. OP, listen to this man! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ado213 Posted April 23, 2014 Report Share Posted April 23, 2014 (edited) Oh do you?, that's strange never publicly declared I had done it ? Edited April 23, 2014 by Adrian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
live1 Posted April 23, 2014 Report Share Posted April 23, 2014 the rep sd wont take a gen crystal well the best sd available is bp and that would not take gen sd crystal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ado213 Posted April 23, 2014 Report Share Posted April 23, 2014 Yes it does with mods ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lukenorris2011 Posted April 24, 2014 Report Share Posted April 24, 2014 Yes it does with mods ! Interesting, can you post pics of the mods you have done to the case to except gen xtal?? If you can it seems like it would be a great contribution as the others have there doubts.... Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ado213 Posted April 24, 2014 Report Share Posted April 24, 2014 Yes, I will post pics of the mod, funnily enough I still have my first attempt here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
live1 Posted April 24, 2014 Report Share Posted April 24, 2014 well is it lower than the stock bpsd crystal height as that's too tall.i guess the gen gasket is smaller Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ticktick Posted April 24, 2014 Author Report Share Posted April 24, 2014 @Deokhoon Jun: How does the gen SD crystal compare to WSO's? Are there significant differences? BTW: I've got a BP SD on the way, too. But I bought the SSD V2 from a nice member here. I want to mod it a bit. Especially CGs and if possible crystal. I like the lugs on the SSD. BP has got flaws here considering the shape in the lower end area of the lugs. They are too slanted. Cheers Andi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deokhoon jun Posted April 24, 2014 Report Share Posted April 24, 2014 any of aftermarket crystals are nothing like gen shape; height, bevel, and the edge on the top all wrong. you want to save your money so I just recommend you not to buy any cheap one. Just go straight Gen crystal. you can put gen crystal on bp or SD by using an adhesive. that`s just putting it onto the rehaut. Cant ensure water resistance. Or if you have a shaving shelf to peel the outer rim of rehaut about 1mm, then you can get a room for gasket between rehaut and retaining ring. I never tried that, but its not impossible story. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ado213 Posted April 24, 2014 Report Share Posted April 24, 2014 Glue it !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ephry73 Posted April 24, 2014 Report Share Posted April 24, 2014 The closest thing I have found to fit in an old SSD case is a gen crystal or a286 crystal.. Can't use the gasket with it and needs to be glued. This always made me nervous. If there can be a group buy for custom made crystal to fit, out of real sapphire with the correct beveling and no LEC as well as being able to fit a gasket for a mechanically sound seal, then we can revive thousands of SSD V1/2 cases. Just saying. May be easier more cost effective as well as physically more sound to do a group buy for a custom crystal. The new BPSD has a great crystal, so the potential is there. E Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ado213 Posted April 25, 2014 Report Share Posted April 25, 2014 Great idea, there are generic crystals available, but the do require the case to be modded to use both the crystal and gasket. As in the drawing posted. I am no expert on the exact crystal chamfers (bevels), and dimensions of these would be a great advantage. Too many times have I heard that the height "looks" wrong, the crystal chamfering "looks" wrong. IMO These are all subjective views and without the correct dimensions cannot be justified. Does anyone have a gen xtal they could measure accurately and publish their findings I'll go with Ephry on this one, let's do a bulk buy, put me down for 5 PS. Post coming on case machining Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ticktick Posted April 25, 2014 Author Report Share Posted April 25, 2014 I would buy such a crystal, too. But in my opinion Rolex seemed to use different crystals over the years. I watched several pictures of gen 16660 and 16600s. The height seems to differ from model to model. Also the distortion and look of the rehaut. I found a gen 666 in superb condition which had a rehaut looking like a DSSD caused by distortion of the crystal. Cheers Andi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ticktick Posted April 25, 2014 Author Report Share Posted April 25, 2014 Have a look on this beauty I mentioned above: Cheers Andi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deokhoon jun Posted April 25, 2014 Report Share Posted April 25, 2014 (edited) No distortion at all. SD has removal and thicker rehaut. Every sd looks the same. Edited April 25, 2014 by Deokhoon Jun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ado213 Posted April 25, 2014 Report Share Posted April 25, 2014 Great pic, let's have more !!, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ticktick Posted April 25, 2014 Author Report Share Posted April 25, 2014 O. K. Some pics of the side profile where we can watch the profile of the crystal. Have a look on the angle of the bevel and the top contour of it. Cheers Andi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ado213 Posted April 26, 2014 Report Share Posted April 26, 2014 Thanks so much for posting the extra pics, which have captured the elusive bevel. I'll post some BP shots for comparison Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danielv2000 Posted April 27, 2014 Report Share Posted April 27, 2014 Here's the BP SD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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