Smab Posted June 16, 2014 Report Share Posted June 16, 2014 Hello fellow members. Hope to get some input from you to enlighten the issue with the "new breed Asian 2813 Highbeat 28.800 25j" movement, these show up as budget options on some Rollies, but also in some models not budget at all (i.e. SteelFish SuperOcean V2 Asian Clone 2836-2). Planet Ocean Ceramic Asian 2836 clone etc. Seems the BP factory are using this budget movement and calling it an Asian Clone 2836, and the models are priced in the upper 200 lower 300 ish price range. At the same time the same movements are sold as it should have been, as a "A2813" highbeat at prices ranging from 150-ish up to lower 200 ish. Who is scamming who here? The factories, the dealers? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
automatico Posted June 16, 2014 Report Share Posted June 16, 2014 The 'A2813 high beat' might be the DG 4813...it is a fast beat (28800bph) Miyota clone similar to DG/NN etc Miyota 8215 clones. From my experience with them they are Ok as long as you are fairly active as the reserve is not too hot. All mine keep good time though. They are not '25 jewel' movements same as swiss Eta but probably somewhere between 20 and 25, I never took the time to add them up. They look just like a regular NN '21 jewel' movement except they have a smaller balance wheel. All my 4813 are gold tone where my regular DG 21j movements are silver colored. My experience = owning 3 or 4 watches with he DG 4813 and all seem to have low reserve unless you hand wind them now and then or are fairly active and wear the watch 8 hours per day or more. As with all movements in replicas and cheapo watches there is no way to know what you are getting because of poor handling and a not very clean assembly environment. I also have doubts about proper oiling from the factory. The A2824/36 etaclones are entirely different as you know and are said to be better movements than the 'A21j'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GenTLe Posted June 16, 2014 Report Share Posted June 16, 2014 Hi automatico, unfortunately it's not that way. They're cheap clone of the clone... They look like an era clone, but they're much worse. Main problems with reliability, problems with crown stem and so on. one of the thing to check for them is that they use screws instead of clasps to keep the dial attached. There's a thread on them here too. Maybe in the scam area, don't remember. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike on a bike Posted June 16, 2014 Report Share Posted June 16, 2014 A lot of this going on two threads from RWG Bz guys pissed. http://www.rwg.bz/board/index.php?showtopic=79561&hl=&fromsearch=1 http://www.rwg.bz/board/index.php?showtopic=79493&hl=&fromsearch=1 And here; http://www.rwgforum.net/topic/170732-broken-promises-from-a-trusted-dealer/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
automatico Posted June 16, 2014 Report Share Posted June 16, 2014 GT Just read the thread and it seems they have come up with a cheapo etaclone-clone that may be worse than a run of the mill 'dirt and hair' 21 jewel movement. A sad state of affairs. Next they will be using roach bug whiskers for hairsprings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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