tframo Posted March 12, 2016 Report Share Posted March 12, 2016 What are your guys thoughts on this watch? I like the looks of the dial and have read some pretty good reviews on the web but I'm a little worried about the movement modification done to allow it to have the date at 6 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UmpaHimself Posted March 12, 2016 Report Share Posted March 12, 2016 I think it's great looking. A little in your face with all the blue. I had not noticed that they added a date to this one. The crystal doesn't look standard on the one you show though, I don't think it has a mag cyclops from the factory. Not sure about the movement either. After writing this I realized I am not much help Sorry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
panerai153 Posted March 12, 2016 Report Share Posted March 12, 2016 T, That's a nice looking watch. I have had such dismal bad luck with AP ROO's with the sec@12 mod, I'm really, really gun shy about any of these "modified" a7750 movements. If this is a gen with a purpose made movement, then that's a different story. I would expect that that the ETA 7750 with the DD module would be as reliable as the similar one that makes up the LWO 283. Just read a bit nd it looks like at the onset these were selling fast, but were getting flipped at a pretty good pace as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gasebah Posted March 12, 2016 Report Share Posted March 12, 2016 Guys sorry if this is a dumb question but what am I missing here? I thought the Heritage Chromo was not available except for a quartz version. And the Heritage Chrono also has no cyclops on the date. Only the old Monte Carlo had that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tframo Posted March 12, 2016 Author Report Share Posted March 12, 2016 This is the gen. I've been looking at them for a while. You can pick up a good used one for around $2500. It's a modified eta with a date at 6 configuration from the factory. I forget exactly the movement name But I know it's not a eta7750 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
panerai153 Posted March 12, 2016 Report Share Posted March 12, 2016 It's an ETA 2892 movement with a Dupuis Depraz chrono module . This module moves the seconds @9 to seconds @3. The module is to move the seconds counter and add a 45 minute totalizer, nothing to do with the date. What is weird, I looked at some of these on the web, and all the ones I saw didn't have the cyclops. The Monte Carlos which this watch is attributed to had a cyclops, but the one you have pictured is the first of the modern version with a cyclops. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UmpaHimself Posted March 12, 2016 Report Share Posted March 12, 2016 It's an ETA 2892 (non chrono) with a DD 2054 chronograph module added on. Here is some info from TRF: "The Eta 2892 is a perfect normal, low profile, automatic high beat movement but not a chronograph. On top op this movement there's a extra plate with a chronograph parts placed on it. This is a completely different idea of a chronograph movement in comparisson to a 7750 or the high end chronograph movements with column wheel. The Valjoux 7750 is much more reliable as the 2892 with DD. All the cheaper Swatch group auto Chrono's use this movement and module. Of course the watch is assembled and QC by Rolex in their headquarters that might be the part to pull over potential buyers. Redirecting the counters on Valjoux 775X and the date at 6 would've been virtually impossible." Also other members are saying that the additional module is very difficult to service. Most private watchmakers won't do it. Some have also said it's easier and not too costly just to replace the module ($150-$200). I'm sure it would be fine but those are good things to know going in. If you are not dying to own one then you might want to stay away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
astonjenks Posted March 12, 2016 Report Share Posted March 12, 2016 I like it and at that price would be happy to buy one! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
panerai153 Posted March 12, 2016 Report Share Posted March 12, 2016 They could have made this a lot simpler and a lot more reliable if they had left the sec@ 9 and had the totalizer @ 3, rather than the other way around!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
droptopman Posted March 12, 2016 Report Share Posted March 12, 2016 Tony, check with Adam "aphillipe" on here. He has had the gen for a while. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tframo Posted March 12, 2016 Author Report Share Posted March 12, 2016 Thanks for the insight guys. I love the look but don't love the movement. But it does look sweet on the OEM nato the black and gray dials aren't bad either... The date mag was added to the crystal per the seller Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nightwatch Posted March 13, 2016 Report Share Posted March 13, 2016 I´s got a fresh and summerly look. It´s a chronograph and with the hour-ring could double as a GMT. I definitely like it:) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aphillipe Posted March 14, 2016 Report Share Posted March 14, 2016 Love mine..... Definitely more of a summer watch on the NATO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tframo Posted March 15, 2016 Author Report Share Posted March 15, 2016 20 hours ago, aphillipe said: Love mine..... Definitely more of a summer watch on the NATO. Looks great. Not sure why the one I'm looking at has the date mag added Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike on a bike Posted March 15, 2016 Report Share Posted March 15, 2016 3 hours ago, tframo said: Looks great. Not sure why the one I'm looking at has the date mag added Gives me pause TF . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aphillipe Posted March 16, 2016 Report Share Posted March 16, 2016 Looks great. Not sure why the one I'm looking at has the date mag added I kinda dig the date mag..... I've seen others do it too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sneed12 Posted March 22, 2016 Report Share Posted March 22, 2016 On 3/11/2016 at 11:43 AM, tframo said: What are your guys thoughts on this watch? I like the looks of the dial and have read some pretty good reviews on the web but I'm a little worried about the movement modification done to allow it to have the date at 6 The only "modification" generally required for date at 6 is to print the numbers in a different orientation, and cut the date window into the dial in a different place. The date disc is a circle, it's there under the dial already. 99.9% of movements that come in variants with date at 3, 4:30, 6, 9, whatever are identical except for the printing on the date disc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kernow Posted March 22, 2016 Report Share Posted March 22, 2016 37 minutes ago, sneed12 said: The only "modification" generally required for date at 6 is to print the numbers in a different orientation, and cut the date window into the dial in a different place. The date disc is a circle, it's there under the dial already. 99.9% of movements that come in variants with date at 3, 4:30, 6, 9, whatever are identical except for the printing on the date disc. I agree for three handers, but what about chronographs? I'm not a movement guy but I'd imagine that some are restricted by the chronograph complication as to where the date can go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sneed12 Posted March 22, 2016 Report Share Posted March 22, 2016 (edited) Nope. Other than the fact that there's less empty dial real estate, there's no reason why they'd be any different. You can put a date window at 6 o'clock on an ETA 7750 with no modifications at all, it just ends up in the hours totalizer subdial. You can put one at 4:30. You can put one at 9 if you want to, although it would be stupid looking and the running seconds would run over the window for ~20 seconds out of every minute. No mods to the movement are required. Edited March 22, 2016 by sneed12 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kernow Posted March 22, 2016 Report Share Posted March 22, 2016 Wow, you learn something every day. thanks for the info. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leodensian Posted May 15, 2016 Report Share Posted May 15, 2016 (edited) I have just bought the rep version and it is indeed only Quartz. However I CAN safely wear it as a daily beater lol. Only thing is i'd love to lay my hands on the gen nato as the nylon ones just dont quite do it. Especially as the gen doesnt have the extra loop but instead has spring bar tunnels especially woven into the fabric. Edited May 15, 2016 by leodensian insert pic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishmael Posted May 21, 2016 Report Share Posted May 21, 2016 Definitely try to get the gen fabric and buckle - yeah it's twice as much as the watch itself, but if you like the watch, you'll be amazed at the difference. Took me awhile to source mine, but well worth the effort. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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