djulink Posted September 22, 2016 Report Share Posted September 22, 2016 (edited) Hi gents, As some of you know, I've been hunting for one of those for a bit of time now and just wanted to share excitement and rejoice with you Just received this baby today ; the previous owner had a 700 Athaya crown and tube installed. Do you think/know if the tube will fit a proper 600 crown ? Edited September 22, 2016 by djulink 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sogeha Posted September 22, 2016 Report Share Posted September 22, 2016 Happy for you, enjoy her, she's a beauty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alligoat Posted September 22, 2016 Report Share Posted September 22, 2016 Man that's the dial that I'm dying for (for a V-72 movement). Beautiful! I doubt the 700 tube will fit a 600 crown, but the tube hole should be the same size as for a 24-6000-0 tube and the 24-600-0 crown. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freddy333 Posted September 22, 2016 Report Share Posted September 22, 2016 Ditto Alligoat's comments. The 6mm Twinlock crown users a smaller diameter tube, but the hole in the case should be the same diameter/thread pitch for either tube. That said, many rep & aftermarket cases have poorly or incorrectly tapped case holes (for both the crown & pushers). So be careful when fitting a new tube & be prepared to have to re-tap the hole to make a gen tube fit without cross-threading (most of the watchmaker supply houses sell tap sets for Rolex crowns & pushers). & nice watch! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmb Posted September 23, 2016 Report Share Posted September 23, 2016 I think the Athaya 700/702 tube now uses the same thread as a gen spec 7030 tube. The only thing I can think of, right off, is that if the tube has been "sunk" into the case fairly deep then the 6020 tube might not stick out far enough and you might nee do screw it in to the proper length with epoxy instead of Loc-Tite. You won't know until you try it and see... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djulink Posted September 23, 2016 Author Report Share Posted September 23, 2016 (edited) Thanks Gents for your answers, Two more questions : - the watch and chrono function are running fine, but movement is a bit "speedy" (I'd say 30sec+/d) ; is there an "easy" way to settle it or does that mean service ? ("easy" : I've a little experience in setting my 6538 and my 6200 - DG2813 and ETA2824 - but apart from those I don't know how to work with the one inside that watch - it seems to be one of the "mystery movement" DW series, i.e. the seller original sale thread @ RG and RWI - eventhough I was able to unscrew the case-back yesterday) - as you can notice, middle-case is a bit larger than the bezel on the crown and pushers side, even though bezel is perfectly aligned with the dial; is it expected with that kind of Daytona's ? As always, thanks in advance for your tips and knowledge sharing Edited September 23, 2016 by djulink Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StormTooper4 Posted September 23, 2016 Report Share Posted September 23, 2016 That's a great looking piece Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alligoat Posted September 23, 2016 Report Share Posted September 23, 2016 The later 6239s from Rolex also had that bulge, the first series didn't. With the DW mystery movement you probably need a service, or maybe you could get by with dipping the hairspring in some cleaning solution. My watchmaker did that on a V72 of mine and bought me a little time before I had to service it. Mystery movements are probably 8-12 years old by themselves and that means time for a service anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gasebah Posted September 23, 2016 Report Share Posted September 23, 2016 What a beauty. Have fun with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freddy333 Posted September 23, 2016 Report Share Posted September 23, 2016 - the watch and chrono function are running fine, but movement is a bit "speedy" (I'd say 30sec+/d) ; is there an "easy" way to settle it or does that mean service ? ("easy" : I've a little experience in setting my 6538 and my 6200 - DG2813 and ETA2824 - but apart from those I don't know how to work with the one inside that watch - it seems to be one of the "mystery movement" DW series, i.e. the seller original sale thread @ RG and RWI - eventhough I was able to unscrew the case-back yesterday) With the caseback removed, looking at the area of the balance wheel, you should see a piece that sticks out like this - To reduce the speed of the movement (slow the watch), use a toothpick (assuming you lack a proper tool) to gently & ever so slightly nudge the piece slightly closer to the other piece where the hairspring terminates. Again, just a wee bit as this adjustment can make a huge difference. It is very easy to go too far & end up with a watch running too slow or slip & damage the hairspring or another component. So be careful! Then, fully wind the watch, set it to a computer or other accurate time-keeper & wear it for 24 hours. After 24 hours, compare the difference in seconds with the computer clock & readjust that sliding piece until you are within about 5-10 secs/day. Good luck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djulink Posted September 23, 2016 Author Report Share Posted September 23, 2016 (edited) Freddy, that's perfect ! Thanks a Bunch ! Here's with the case-back open : From what I saw, it's not that much different than a sub movement, the time settings I mean... So from your pic that would be the one on the right wich is nearly horizontal? Edited September 23, 2016 by djulink Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freddy333 Posted September 24, 2016 Report Share Posted September 24, 2016 From what I saw, it's not that much different than a sub movement, the time settings I mean... So from your pic that would be the one on the right wich is nearly horizontal? Yes. On many movements, the timing adjustment piece has 2 tiny dots on it, which are the ends of the pins that run down along each side of the hairspring (the other piece to its left is where the hairspring terminates & it sets the beat - do not move it!) & increase/decrease the 'spring's effective length - slowing/increasing the balance, which slows/increases the speed of the movement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djulink Posted September 24, 2016 Author Report Share Posted September 24, 2016 it worked well, time is properly set now. txs again Freddy Few shots in the morning: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philwongnz Posted September 24, 2016 Report Share Posted September 24, 2016 Congrats and nice strap mate, where did you get it from? Sent from my SM-N930F using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djulink Posted September 24, 2016 Author Report Share Posted September 24, 2016 Txs, Sadly, the vintage watsh shop (in Nancy, France) I got it from closed few months ago; I've had it for a long time (like 2 years) and wore it a lot; and it's french veal leather "double veau". The stitchings are very weel made (very thin). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alligoat Posted September 24, 2016 Report Share Posted September 24, 2016 I'm thinking that movement is a a7750 with the auto wind removed and not a DW mystery movement- the subdials are too far out also- here's my albino which also has the a7750 in it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dpap Posted September 24, 2016 Report Share Posted September 24, 2016 So, is there a movement that would fit in DW's cases that would also work with the vietname dials (which are for v72) that does not cost an arm and a leg?Would the venus clone in the current crop of cartel daytonas do it (with 6 fixed) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djulink Posted September 24, 2016 Author Report Share Posted September 24, 2016 Well I really don't know much about those movements as I'm not familiar with them ; here, what is supposed to be the old thread : Old sale thread - http://www.repgeek.com/showthread.php?257893-FS-DW-ROLEX-6239-With-mystery-movement but I don't have access to it (not enough post @ RG)... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sogeha Posted September 25, 2016 Report Share Posted September 25, 2016 Well I really don't know much about those movements as I'm not familiar with them ; here, what is supposed to be the old thread : Old sale thread - http://www.repgeek.com/showthread.php?257893-FS-DW-ROLEX-6239-With-mystery-movement but I don't have access to it (not enough post @ RG)... You haven't missed much, I just had a look and it turned out to be a 7750 not a mystery movement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djulink Posted September 25, 2016 Author Report Share Posted September 25, 2016 Yes, actually I read a little bit further the original seller RWI thread and the movement was indicated as a7750…. just below the line where the reference to the mystery movement topic was pointed out… my bad. I don't even know the difference between the mystery and the a7750 movements but I think I read here and there that there are deeper case-back for the DW case allowing to adapt to the different movement calibers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sogeha Posted September 25, 2016 Report Share Posted September 25, 2016 Well a 7750 always has the wrong subdial spacing for a Daytona. I know there are two types of DW dials, one has correct spacing and is rather good, the other is for 7750. I always assumed the mystery movement was so called because nobody ever worked out what it was. The whole DW thing happened before I was really serious about reps, so like you I'm trying to piece it together after the events. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prdubis Posted September 25, 2016 Report Share Posted September 25, 2016 MM is a crappy asian copy of a Valjoux23, but not a clone. V72 hands will fil MM. V72 dial will not. Movement from OP watch is definitely an A7750 modified to handwind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dpap Posted September 25, 2016 Report Share Posted September 25, 2016 So, is there any other movement that a dial made for v72 will fit (besides v72 or v23)? i think they probably fit the venus clones that cartels use but I am not 100 pct sure Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prdubis Posted September 25, 2016 Report Share Posted September 25, 2016 So, is there any other movement that a dial made for v72 will fit (besides v72 or v23)? i think they probably fit the venus clones that cartels use but I am not 100 pct sure V72 and MM have the same subdial spacing but different feet position. So, is there any other movement that a dial made for v72 will fit (besides v72 or v23)? i think they probably fit the venus clones that cartels use but I am not 100 pct sure Have a look here about Carte ST19 daytona: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dpap Posted September 25, 2016 Report Share Posted September 25, 2016 [/url] Have a look here about Carte ST19 daytona: Yes, that is what I remembered! Ok, does anyone then know if a st19 will fit dw's cases made for 7750? I think they are a bit spacier than the ones for v72Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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