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Older '5513' with a twist.

Top view...



Bottom view, Mary 'foldoyster' with a flipper locker...



Inside view with the twist...


The twist is a Hattori (Seiko) VH31A continuous sweep quartz movement.  It ticks similar to an older rolex with an 18,000 bph 1530 etc at 5 whacks per second.  This movement makes 4 whacks per second but it is better than one whack per second.  It already had a 'me first' dial so it is period correct for the slower beat rate.  Ha!

The 'A21J' went south and I did not want to screw with another automatic so I went this route.  I can hang it up, wear it, or pitch it in a drawer for a couple months...automatics can't beat that.   

Hands are TAG Heuer ETA 955.xxx quartz replacements (1.20/.70/.20) aged in strong coffee.  It was a quickie job and the next one will be a bit neater, maybe a '1016'.  Case origin is unknown for sure (JKF?) and the bez assembly is a spring wire DW takeoff with a GS crystal.


Update 10-8-2022:

Found the specs on the VH31A.  It makes four (4) whacks per second, not 5 so I changed it above.

Seiko Instruments (SII) VH31 / VH31A watch movement | Caliber Corner



Quartz '5513' observations... - The Rolex Area - RWG


Update 11-18-22...

With rubber strap, RIYI strap hoods, and deployant clasp...



Clasp cap and fliplock...



Blades and latch...




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"Did you make your own movement spacer?"


Yes, it is made out of a brass flat washer.  Can't remember the original size but I had 6 or 8 machined and now they are 31.6mm OD, 24.0mm ID, and 2.25mm thick.  A friend cut them on a shop lathe because my Sherline lathe is small and would take too long, it is Ok for sizing the rough cut spacers to cases and movements though.  These spacers work fine for projects using cases made for rolex 12.5 ligne and ETA 11.5 ligne movemets.  The ID is a little bit too big for the Hattori movement as it is 23.6mm so I had to push a thin metal movement spacer in between the movement and brass spacer.  Not a very good solution but it works.  Next time, I'll use a spacer with the correct ID if I can find any flat washers to make them.

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'New' 1016...


New as in different case and bracelet but same dial and 'combo' ETA 2824/2836 that was in my JMB '1016'.  Sold the JMB cases and the guts ended up here.



Genuine 16220 case, ST bezel, cut to fit GS 22 crystal.  Lug holes bored out for oem spec spring bars.



This same case had a 1570 and genuine 1016 dial for a while in mid 2008.  The bracelet is a cheapo with hollow mid links.  The screw holes in the removable links were blind on one side and I drilled them out and pressed short pieces of stainless pins in them and finished the ends to look like ends of the screws.

Made a new brass spacer to position the movement in the case and cemented the 'no foot' dial to the spacer.  Case clamps and screws keep it all in place.

This late 1980s (L serial) 16220 case may look a bit more like a later 1016 than an earlier model.  The 2824 base movement is a good fit in this case but a 2836 would be a hair too thick.  A 2836 is a better fit in a 16000 type case.


The earlier '1016' with the JMB case looked new but this high mileage case looks the part.  More or less.

Note the worn lug tips from a bracelet on the side view and below, this takes place over years of daily wear.  The left lug is shadowed and gives the impression of heavy wear but the other side gives a more accurate impression.  This happens when the hoods and bracelet connecting links wear and allow the bracelet to rub the insides of the lugs.


It looks pretty bad in this close-up but it does not show much at all on the wrist.


The 'new 1016' case above compared to a replica 36mm 'modern explorer'...


The 'modern explorer' has an A21 in it and the case will accept an ETA 2836-2.  I have one that came with an ETA 2836 and they are identical except for the movements, hands, dials, and dial foot location.  This one has silver/gray writing on the dial and the ETA 2836 models have the correct white writing.

It is 15+/- years old but looks like the same cases they are selling today...maybe the same as an unmodified JMB '1016' case?  It will accept oem crystals etc.

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"Nice! where did you source the watch hands? They look pretty good!"



The hands are pretty flat and came from ST...'Tudor Style Sub Hands'...RH-TD/SUB-W.

Got the bracelet from a 'Crazy Sale' AK/Explorer from 'Paul' @ Abay, 2005 or so.

The dial came from RWG member 'Stilty' around 2011 iirc.

The case from a guy on the 'net in March 2003.

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