Americany13 Posted November 20, 2017 Report Share Posted November 20, 2017 I guess the general consensus is that you always go for the asian 2836 since the ETA- 2835 is usually old or asian anyway. so what about the Clone 3135? if the same watch is made in 2836 and rolex clone 3135 which should I go for? and is the 2836 easily swappable with a genuine 2836? or a Sellita ST2200? or a ISA ISA 2331 / 103 Quartz ?? the is the difference between clone 1:1 to bestest copy or best like gen. I have been looking at trusted dealers and cant find V2, v3...V7 or Grade A, A+, AA, AAA, superclone. How do I figure all this out. I'm looking to buy a 116300 blue DateJust 41 II with a smooth bezel. some are 199USD and others are 368USD. I cant find a difference Can someone please help me? and how come my PW doesnt work on the Android App? Thank you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tframo Posted November 20, 2017 Report Share Posted November 20, 2017 Buy the 3135 clone. You can always send to a modder if it stops working. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sogeha Posted November 20, 2017 Report Share Posted November 20, 2017 Broadly speaking the higher the price the better the rep. A clone 2836 is directly swappable with the genuine ETA or any Swiss clone. The big issue is the 2836 places the crown too low on the case. It is up to you to decide if you can live with this. If it were me, I would go with @tframo‘s advice and buy the 3135, then budget another hundred Bucks just in case it died and needed a modder to rebuild it. The V numbers are versions, the A, AA etc is total BS and not worth listening to. Stop for a moment and consider who decides what is only AA and what is AAAAA plus, do you think there is a Chinese board of counterfeit goods that awards and enforces the standard? No of course you don’t ? It is all very baffling at first. We know, we have all been there, but the more you read, you find it slowly starts to make sense Oh and just to help out if you don’t already know A3135 is described as a clone, but it is just an Asian 2836 with rather silly and pointless decoration plates that make it look slightly similar to a Rolex 3135, pointless, because it has a solid case back and anyone that knows enough to be opening the case back isn’t going to be fooled. I despise them SH3135 is physically the same dimensions as the 3135, looks similar, same dial feet position, same hand size etc, but no interchange parts. Found in Noob watches, it was unreliable, but is now reported as much better SA3135 clone of 3135 with the majority of parts interchangeable with genuine Rolex parts, but obviously not of the same quality or finish as Rolex parts, found in BP watches. Actually a BP would be worth considering for this model Generally because of the conditions these watches are built in, the movements are dirty regardless of which movement is bought. Opinions vary, some immediately send a new watch for a service, others run to failure then get it serviced and repaired. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Americany13 Posted November 21, 2017 Author Report Share Posted November 21, 2017 thanks for the replies guys, I appreciate it. LOL @ Chinese board of counterfeit goods that awards and enforces the standard...that makes sense. So now I understand that there is two 3135s, An A3135 thats actually a decorated Asian 2836 and a SA3135 is a Chinese exact clone of the ROLEX 3135. The Asian 2836 is replaceable and swappable, but the Chinese SA3135 needs a Modder to fix. From what I am reading on this forum and I emailed a couple trusted dealers and it seems like they have favored the 2836 but now the replies above sway me towards the SA3135 rolex clone not the decorated 2836. it is better to contact trusted dealers from the forum on the forum first of just order from the website directly? I confirmed availability and stock with alot of them. @Sogeha any reason to go with BP besides the crown placement? I couldnt tell any difference in crown placement between BP vs NOOB unless the pictures on the dealers sites are not real. Thank you @tframo @Sogeha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sogeha Posted November 21, 2017 Report Share Posted November 21, 2017 @Americany13 Any time buddy. TD’s are expected to use actual pictures of the watches they sell, but sometimes they use the same picture for the 2836 and clone versions. If you are looking at TD sites, just post links up here and we will try to help you make sense of what you are seeing and make your own decision 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Americany13 Posted November 21, 2017 Author Report Share Posted November 21, 2017 Didnt know that was allowed, http://www.ttw-1388.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=1_294&products_id=17831 https://www.ts-watches.co/mobile/goods.php?ProId=22202 http://www.pf-818.com/r41djs-705-116334-ss-ss-fluted-oyster-blue-sticks-sa-3136.html https://puretime03.com/watch-brands/rolex/datejust/datejust-41-126300-noob-1-1-best-edition-polished-bezel-blue-dial-stick-markers-on-ss-oyster-bracelet-a3235.html# I think the are all the same price, but only TS offers 16% off or 25% with no warranty and a possibility of DOA. I was leaning toward a 2836 since anywatch maker can work on it or swap its movement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sogeha Posted November 21, 2017 Report Share Posted November 21, 2017 Puretime have a sister site for sales like that. www.watchoutlet01.com I will have a look at the links a little later, I’m a bit busy right now. Damn job getting in the way of hobbies??? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Americany13 Posted November 21, 2017 Author Report Share Posted November 21, 2017 Take your time brother, I'm not in a rush, http://watchoutlet01.com/watches/rollie/datejust-41-126300-noob-1-1-best-edition-polished-bezel-blue-dial-stick-markers-on-ss-oyster-bracelet-a3235.html This one says both 2836 and 3235 clone Wow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sogeha Posted November 22, 2017 Report Share Posted November 22, 2017 http://www.pf-818.com/r41djs-705-116334-ss-ss-fluted-oyster-blue-sticks-sa-3136.html This one is the odd one out, it has the true clone of the Rolex movement. All the others are Chinese 2836 with deco plates. Honestly I think the factories make it as hard as possible to sort out which movement they are using. Why name them all so similarly otherwise. There is nothing wrong with the Chinese 2836, other than the crown being slightly lower than gen. I personally dislike deco plates, especially as in order to fit them to some reps, they make the case deeper than gen. so for a bit of theatre behind a closed case back that isn’t going to fool anyone, they add a very obvious fault to the case. Mutter, mutter. Having said all that, I wouldn’t refuse a watch simply because it had deco plates 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Americany13 Posted November 22, 2017 Author Report Share Posted November 22, 2017 (edited) That 3135 sells @ yuki for 280$ that's as much as a new rep. So when a 2836 craps out , I can grab a new one for 150$. Unless it needs modifying.... But what do you do when a 3135 craps out? When the replacement is 280$. Yuki says to service the 3135 before it is even set in the case. Two last questions.....whats the difference between puretime and watchoutlet? Same exact watch but 75 bucks cheaper? Same owner....should I just go with the expensive puretime to make sure I get a better watch? So, I can't post QC pictures.....so how do I judge them? I can't tell a difference between a timex and a Casio let alone find flaws in a clone. I really appreciate your help man. Edited November 22, 2017 by Americany13 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lorenzo1910 Posted November 22, 2017 Report Share Posted November 22, 2017 With Watchoutlet you get no help for a packet seizure nor warranty on the watch... that's why it's cheaper... (Read the FAQ) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Americany13 Posted November 22, 2017 Author Report Share Posted November 22, 2017 I did read the FAQ unless I'm missing something. Im on mobile not desktop so i might of missed it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tframo Posted November 22, 2017 Report Share Posted November 22, 2017 But this one. http://www.pf-818.com/r41djs-705-116334-ss-ss-fluted-oyster-blue-sticks-sa-3136.html The movements are good and it’s the most gen like in appearance and function, if that’s what you are after 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Americany13 Posted November 26, 2017 Author Report Share Posted November 26, 2017 On 11/21/2017 at 7:28 PM, Sogeha said: http://www.pf-818.com/r41djs-705-116334-ss-ss-fluted-oyster-blue-sticks-sa-3136.html This one is the odd one out, it has the true clone of the Rolex movement. All the others are Chinese 2836 with deco plates. Honestly I think the factories make it as hard as possible to sort out which movement they are using. Why name them all so similarly otherwise. There is nothing wrong with the Chinese 2836, other than the crown being slightly lower than gen. I personally dislike deco plates, especially as in order to fit them to some reps, they make the case deeper than gen. so for a bit of theatre behind a closed case back that isn’t going to fool anyone, they add a very obvious fault to the case. Mutter, mutter. Having said all that, I wouldn’t refuse a watch simply because it had deco plates Perfectclones just added an option for raw eta or raw 2836 no deco in the link you chose, I'll email him to ask about the factory of the case, Noob or BP or JF or AR.....not that Ill be able to tell the difference LOL On 11/22/2017 at 2:07 PM, tframo said: But this one. http://www.pf-818.com/r41djs-705-116334-ss-ss-fluted-oyster-blue-sticks-sa-3136.html The movements are good and it’s the most gen like in appearance and function, if that’s what you are after Thanks you I'll be going for that model Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Americany13 Posted November 28, 2017 Author Report Share Posted November 28, 2017 So if I get a tracking number before QC pictures, does it mean it already shipped? Cause I didn't get QC pictures but got a tracking number Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lorenzo1910 Posted December 2, 2017 Report Share Posted December 2, 2017 On 22/11/2017 at 7:04 PM, Americany13 said: I did read the FAQ unless I'm missing something. Im on mobile not desktop so i might of missed it LOL... I was talking about Watchoutlet FAQ... http://watchoutlet01.com/faques/faqs/index/ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Americany13 Posted December 2, 2017 Author Report Share Posted December 2, 2017 Oh, I miss understood. It's ok though the mods pointed me in the right way and the watch is in transit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lorenzo1910 Posted December 3, 2017 Report Share Posted December 3, 2017 Good...please let us know about the shipping time and post some pics... Thank you! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Americany13 Posted December 7, 2017 Author Report Share Posted December 7, 2017 So it took 4 days for DHL to pick up from Hong Kong, was told it was packed/ shipped Dec 1st, DHL pickedit up on the 4th , arrived today on the 7th. +Site said new blue line, I'm seeing green. +crown too high on dial +impossible to screw crown in after I set the time....it took a while. Crown seems rough when I try to turn it. I ordered the 2836 raw Asian, but I couldn't open it. The Rolex script on the inside, is the R supposed to be at every of the indices? The 5 min indice is a bit crooked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Americany13 Posted December 12, 2017 Author Report Share Posted December 12, 2017 Nevermind everyone this POS just stopped. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lorenzo1910 Posted December 13, 2017 Report Share Posted December 13, 2017 It took me a while to understand what POS was meaning... Ok... just stopped and no sign of life? Not even after a good wind? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Americany13 Posted December 26, 2017 Author Report Share Posted December 26, 2017 On 12/13/2017 at 1:39 AM, lorenzo1910 said: It took me a while to understand what POS was meaning... Ok... just stopped and no sign of life? Not even after a good wind? It worked again after I tapped it on the palm of my hand a few times. Stops once a week even if I wind it. But starts back up as soon as I tap it . POS .....lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lorenzo1910 Posted December 26, 2017 Report Share Posted December 26, 2017 POS indeed... My 116234 clone works fine until I wear it... but it stops after a couple of hours if I leave it in the drawer... Go to the watchsmith for a clean/lube of the movement or replace it... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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