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Building a 16800 Sub


Tribal

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Hello Gang,

The 16800 was allways my grail Sub, so I decided to build one.

I got a refinished Dial for now.28bca6a29fbc4e29e5b520efa51e761d.jpg

I will take a VR Movement 3135, so the problem is the open 6&9 Datewheel.

I must get gen 168000 wheel that goes in the right direction.

 

I have an old MBW Sub with Lugholes and gen Insert installed. I thought it will be a nice base.

I bought some nice gen 93150 bracelet parts with gen Endlinks.63ce1fde3c315a7696f2e94ec18bdbe8.jpg8664da3ddf0b61af976228ba0839a698.jpg

After running in Problems to fit the VR 3135 in the old MBW Case, I decided to get one of my old WM9 Cases as base.

So the Case got a gen Tube and Crown and a gen No Lec Crystal, also

A gen Insert is installed.

The Rehaut needs to be a bit shallower for a 16800, so it must be shaved down.

The case has no Lugholes so it must be drilled too.

This must be done as next step.

I got hands on the route too.

Here is a sneak Peek

 

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I will update the post when the work is done.

Thanks for looking.

 

 

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How are you thinking you will shave the rehaut? From the front of the case?

 

I'm struggling to understand how you will achieve a shallower rehaut depth while maintaining the overall geometry of the case. Feels like shaving the front will just lower the crystal a bit; milling the inside will throw off the stem height.

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imo, to get the shallow rehaut, try removing metal from the inside of the case. But if you do that, the crown/stem/tube height would become different and the VR3135 wouldn't be compatible. Therefore, the other solution is to install an eta 2836-2 movement. However, finding an open 6/9 ETA dwo (with the correct 3035 font) would be a challenge; but you could get away with a modern closed 6/9 DWO as RSC has swapped service closed 6/9 dwo into 3035 movements before

btw, for your inspiration :D :D
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How are you thinking you will shave the rehaut? From the front of the case?

 

I'm struggling to understand how you will achieve a shallower rehaut depth while maintaining the overall geometry of the case. Feels like shaving the front will just lower the crystal a bit; milling the inside will throw off the stem height.

I think it will be the best, to shave down the Rehaut from the top of the Case. I try to take a smaller crystal gasket and crystal with stronger magnification. Maybe a mix of inside and outside shaving will do the trick. Will see if this works.

 

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Damn. The rehaut on the MBW case is DEEEP. holy crap! I thought I had a bunch of rehaut milling to do for my JF but that’s seems fine after seeing this.

You could try putting a overlay on top of the VR datewheel. That’s pretty much what JF, ARF does with their clone movements and they work fine.

Here’s one a RWG member made.


https://rwg.cc/datastore/attachments/monthly_09_2012/post-10838-0-68609200-1347931856.jpg

It’s still have the flat top 3s but it’s still vintage. I would think printing on a semigloss paper would work. You just don’t get the raised printing. (Does 16800s even have raised printing?) I don’t remember.

My build is just gonna have the modern gen datewheel. It’s just easier and I can live with closed 6s and 9s. I’ll just not wear it on those days. Lol.




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Damn. The rehaut on the MBW case is DEEEP. holy crap! I thought I had a bunch of rehaut milling to do for my JF but that’s seems fine after seeing this.

You could try putting a overlay on top of the VR datewheel. That’s pretty much what JF, ARF does with their clone movements and they work fine.

Here’s one a RWG member made.


https://rwg.cc/datastore/attachments/monthly_09_2012/post-10838-0-68609200-1347931856.jpg

It’s still have the flat top 3s but it’s still vintage. I would think printing on a semigloss paper would work. You just don’t get the raised printing. (Does 16800s even have raised printing?) I don’t remember.

My build is just gonna have the modern gen datewheel. It’s just easier and I can live with closed 6s and 9s. I’ll just not wear it on those days. Lol.




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That's the reason I take the other route and take my WM9 Case, much easier to rework the Rehaut. Also the fitting on an VR3135 is much easier.
I try to get a gen 168000 Datewheel to
do it right.
New Dial is on the way too.


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