TJGladeRaider Posted April 6, 2007 Report Share Posted April 6, 2007 I am sick and tired of GMT JUNK, and even if Ziggy had not published various evaluations of the GMT movements, nobody would have to tell me that the 2893 GMT is VASTLY superior to the modified 2836. Does anyone happen to know of a good source for 2893 movements. I have searched the web and e-bay (I found the ones on EBay with the hour ewheel missing), but someone, somewhere must sell these things new. Have any of our watch smythe gurus installed many of the the 2893s where they watch came with 2836? Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cib0rgman Posted April 6, 2007 Report Share Posted April 6, 2007 I have a catalog from jules borel co. they have a 2893-2 listed for $182.15 you may want to give them a call. www.julesborel.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yt74 Posted April 6, 2007 Report Share Posted April 6, 2007 I'm with you Bill, but I need to locate one on the cheap, the ole rep budget is getting a little thin! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJGladeRaider Posted April 6, 2007 Author Report Share Posted April 6, 2007 I have a catalog from jules borel co. they have a 2893-2 listed for $182.15 you may want to give them a call. www.julesborel.com Thank you very kindly - they didn't show up in my google search for some reason. Looks like $165 ea for 5 of them and I found a hand stack for $25 so this may be doable, but the mark up must be extraordinary since you can buy entire watches (same movement and hands) brand new for not much more than that. In fact, that may be another option. Buy some of those scratch and dent steinharts, and switch the guts out. I look forward to hearing what the watch smythe gurus say. Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJGladeRaider Posted April 6, 2007 Author Report Share Posted April 6, 2007 I'm with you Bill, but I need to locate one on the cheap, the ole rep budget is getting a little thin! Lately, I have been sending batches of my MBWs to Ziggy for lume and gen crowns/tubes. THAT damn sure gets expensive when you do the watches four or five at a time. On the other hand, he does the most incredible work. Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RWG Technical Posted April 6, 2007 Report Share Posted April 6, 2007 I am sick and tired of GMT JUNK, and even if Ziggy had not published various evaluations of the GMT movements, nobody would have to tell me that the 2893 GMT is VASTLY superior to the modified 2836. Does anyone happen to know of a good source for 2893 movements. I have searched the web and e-bay (I found the ones on EBay with the hour ewheel missing), but someone, somewhere must sell these things new. Have any of our watch smythe gurus installed many of the the 2893s where they watch came with 2836? Bill My sources for 2893-2's have them listed at over $300 each, but these are brand new factory sealed units. I have (if memory serves me well) replaced a 2824-2 with a 2893-2 in a PAM GMT. I can't remember the GMT hand sizes but I suspect it was replaced, I think the 2836 basterdized models have much larger hand sizes than the ETA has. The 2836-2 replacement with a 2892 series does not work, since the thickness variation places the stem hole out of alignment with the case. RG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingkitesurf Posted May 23, 2007 Report Share Posted May 23, 2007 The 2836-2 replacement with a 2892 series does not work, since the thickness variation places the stem hole out of alignment with the case. RG Do you mean the 2893... I suppose the 2892 is a typo right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beano2004 Posted May 30, 2007 Report Share Posted May 30, 2007 WOW, i just talked with my watch smith guy today and he can get the 2893-2 for $225 factory sealed. I'm also in the process of doing a transplant on a pam63 but was unsure about the hands fitting on the 2893-2 i was told that the GMT hand will not fit. Can anyone confirm this? i was going to get the genuine pam63 hands but can think of a better way to spend $350 does anybody have any suggestions for the GMT hand? Bean Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
t Posted May 30, 2007 Report Share Posted May 30, 2007 2893-2 decorated and limited (overworked from swiss SOPROD factory. SOPROD overwork also 2893-2 GMT movement for PANERAI) brand new from ETA switzerland. Full decorated. $229. http://s163.photobucket.com/albums/t320/to...0GMT%20limited/ my new batch should arrived end of this week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dluddy Posted May 30, 2007 Report Share Posted May 30, 2007 So Ziggy, just to make sure I understand what you said, you can't replace a 2836 Based GMT with a 2893-2 movement? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajoesmith Posted May 30, 2007 Report Share Posted May 30, 2007 So The Zigmeister, just to make sure I understand what you said, you can't replace a 2836 Based GMT with a 2893-2 movement? Yes you can, ive done it. I got a PAM 63 case which was from a PAM 63 with ETA 2836 modified GMT and put in an ETA 2893-2 movement, Lello datewheel and hands from repaustria (originally from davidsen). It can be done!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RWG Technical Posted May 30, 2007 Report Share Posted May 30, 2007 So Ziggy, just to make sure I understand what you said, you can't replace a 2836 Based GMT with a 2893-2 movement? Did I say that? I did replace a 2836-2 in a PAM GMT with a 2893-2 model, so that seems to be a possible modification... I can't remember the details on the hands, since the rep GMT hand does not fit the ETA 2893-2. But I did the work a while back, just can't remember who it was for, or the details. It was quite straight forward and not that difficult. RG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dluddy Posted May 30, 2007 Report Share Posted May 30, 2007 My bad Ziggy The 2836-2 replacement with a 2892 series does not work, since the thickness variation places the stem hole out of alignment with the case. RG I read 2892 as 2893. More coffee please Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beano2004 Posted May 30, 2007 Report Share Posted May 30, 2007 Awesome info I love these conversations keep them coming. Did someone need more coffee..... Beans.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
t Posted May 30, 2007 Report Share Posted May 30, 2007 for me Espresso please... we guys from turkey like it powerful Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cskent69 Posted June 6, 2007 Report Share Posted June 6, 2007 Did I say that? I did replace a 2836-2 in a PAM GMT with a 2893-2 model, so that seems to be a possible modification... I can't remember the details on the hands, since the rep GMT hand does not fit the ETA 2893-2. But I did the work a while back, just can't remember who it was for, or the details. It was quite straight forward and not that difficult. RG Rob - that was me. One of my prized possessions! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2005SUBMARINER Posted June 6, 2007 Report Share Posted June 6, 2007 i agrre with mr TJ i dont wear my eta 2836 gmt master anymore ! cuz that dam gmt hand lags behind ! but the watch keeps excellent time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bwhitesox Posted January 9, 2008 Report Share Posted January 9, 2008 I'm looking at doing this same modification with the 029 and just starting to gather the parts together now but I'm not too sure on the hands. Reading this the rep 2836-2 hands will not fit onto the 2893-2 movement..Is there a place to get the correct hands that will fit.? Also Tourby are you still selling the 2893 movements.? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dadog13 Posted January 9, 2008 Report Share Posted January 9, 2008 (edited) 2893-2 decorated and limited (overworked from swiss SOPROD factory. SOPROD overwork also 2893-2 GMT movement for PANERAI) brand new from ETA switzerland. Full decorated. $229. http://s163.photobucket.com/albums/t320/to...0GMT%20limited/ my new batch should arrived end of this week. hey T, any chance of getting the same mvt that is in the PAM027 A? 2892-A2 with the soprod module for the PR? regards, V P.S. not so long ago I bought one 2893.2 from a member of the forum for 170$... Edited January 9, 2008 by dadog13 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
t Posted January 9, 2008 Report Share Posted January 9, 2008 hey guys... this post is 8 months ago... the prices for ETA movements rised up 200% - 250% a genuine SOPROD 2893-2 GMT (same in genuine Panerai) which i had offer for $229 would cost today approx $450 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archibald Posted January 11, 2008 Report Share Posted January 11, 2008 hey guys... this post is 8 months ago... the prices for ETA movements rised up 200% - 250% a genuine SOPROD 2893-2 GMT (same in genuine Panerai) which i had offer for $229 would cost today approx $450 Wow...they should trade options on ETA movements in New York. I was depressed that I bought a 2893-2 for 10 bucks at a flea market and then had to shell out $160 in pats and labor to get it working. Now I'm not feeling so dumb. I know the hands can be made to fit (or easily sourced). What I'm about to find out is whether or not the movement ring is also moddable since the above movement is going into a 2836 63 case. If the cost of movements ever goes down or the chinese start making modules for their 2892's, someone could make a tidy little bundle selling movement rings for folks to swap out 2836's in PAMs and Rolexes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bwhitesox Posted January 11, 2008 Report Share Posted January 11, 2008 I'm interested to know as well about the movement ring...The Zigmeister do you care to jump in here and let us know if this is possible.? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tech Posted January 11, 2008 Report Share Posted January 11, 2008 I hate to ask the going rate for the 2892 movement....I need some of those as well for some projects...especially for the prices really get stupid.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
t Posted January 11, 2008 Report Share Posted January 11, 2008 I hate to ask the going rate for the 2892 movement....I need some of those as well for some projects...especially for the prices really get stupid.. when you can get it ETA 2892-A2 or 2893-2 movements are like white elephants... it exist only some in standard version but i had the SOPROD versions (different finish, chronometer quality, higher cannion pin)... same like used from PANERAI but you stupid guys don Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bwhitesox Posted January 11, 2008 Report Share Posted January 11, 2008 I see that jules borel has them for $185 which is a good price but being a noob at this I don't know if he ships over seas. http://www.julesborel.com/ products/movements/mechanical/Page 77 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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