RWG Technical Posted January 1, 2008 Report Share Posted January 1, 2008 So with 2008 here, we're that much closer to ETA pulling the plug on movement availability outside of the SWATCH group. The rumours have been flying around on various boards that we better get ETA movements and parts while we can, for they soon will disappear... I have been curious about this very question, and more so on the question of spare parts availability, what happens after next year...do I still have access to parts...I had a lot of questions, so I started to ask my own questions of the suppliers, after all, they should know what is going on...(horological suppliers, not rep watch ones). Here's what I can offer, you decide if there is anything to worry about... - Parts availability. I spoke in person to the owner of a watch material house, and asked this very question. The answer, "Don't worry, we are going to have ETA parts for many many more years...you don't have to stock up on anything, we'll have them here for you". That was a comforting answer, but I was still not entirely convinced... Then I made more inquiries and was shocked. - ETA movement availability. I have access to every possible ETA mechanical movement being made, not only in single quantities, but get this: IF I buy 100 (yes - ONE HUNDRED) or more of any caliber or a variety of calibers, I get a DISCOUNT. That includes FACTORY SEALED ETA movements or surplus ones. 100 of any caliber you want: 2094, 2671, 2836-2, 2893-2, 2894-2, 6497-2, 7750, 7753, 7754, etc, etc... you name it, it's available. Approximate Prices: 2836-2 $150, 6497-1 $120, 6497-2 $450, 7750 $475, these are the single prices, if you bought 100, the price drops to 2836 $120, 6497-1 $95, 6497-2 $365, 7750 $380. So from where I sit, I am not worried about my ETA powered watches, or if I need to buy a ETA whatever movement, I have access to them all. If I can buy 100 of any type, there is no shortage in my opinion. What do you think? RG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordRasta Posted January 1, 2008 Report Share Posted January 1, 2008 Based on your research, this is the last thing I would be worried about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruce79 Posted January 1, 2008 Report Share Posted January 1, 2008 I'll take your word for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FxrAndy Posted January 1, 2008 Report Share Posted January 1, 2008 That does sound reasuring, and happy new year Ziggy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
By-Tor Posted January 1, 2008 Report Share Posted January 1, 2008 Interesting. Am I the only one who thinks that this old rumor about "ETA movements disappearing" has been just another excuse for the factories to drag up their prices? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordRasta Posted January 1, 2008 Report Share Posted January 1, 2008 Interesting. Am I the only one who thinks that this old rumor about "ETA movements disappearing" has been just another excuse for the factories to drag up their prices? Exactly. They're trying to create the illusion of LOW supply, while the demand is HIGH. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southcoast68 Posted January 1, 2008 Report Share Posted January 1, 2008 Good news indeed, although the prices on these movements will continue to rise faster than they would have already. I am sure ETA will use the "limited availability" as a reason for hiking prices. Cost on all of this is stedily going up anyways, and anyone wanting an ETA for a project will be well advised to get in before the cutoff if they want to save a few bucks. Cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pugwash Posted January 1, 2008 Report Share Posted January 1, 2008 If I can buy 100 of any type, there is no shortage in my opinion. What do you think? I think a Group Buy is in order. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikellem Posted January 1, 2008 Report Share Posted January 1, 2008 Nice to see you back Rob... Happy New Year to you, Jennifer and the kids.. -MM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishgodeep Posted January 1, 2008 Report Share Posted January 1, 2008 The ETA availability storm in a tea-cup is over then ...? Great to see you posting wisdom and sense again Ziggy FGD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
t Posted January 1, 2008 Report Share Posted January 1, 2008 finally someone has recognized the dramatical situation of ETA movements. 1x agree The Zigmeister i have told this many times, but it needs The Zigmeisters word that all people understand it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HauteHippie Posted January 1, 2008 Report Share Posted January 1, 2008 Excellent news on two fronts: (1) This certainly puts the rumors to rest regarding availability; and (2) you're back home here at RWG again. PS I had no idea the 6497-2 was such a high end movement... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piratedzeus Posted January 1, 2008 Report Share Posted January 1, 2008 finally someone has recognized the dramatical situation of ETA movements. 1x agree The Zigmeister i have told this many times, but it needs The Zigmeisters word that all people understand it I do not think that you want to agree with The Zigmeister? Or am I the one who mixes something up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watchmeister Posted January 1, 2008 Report Share Posted January 1, 2008 My guess and it is a guess is that it is not a conspiracy movement by the dealer but rather ETA being more picky about who it ships movements to in bulk and also no longer discounting to a level where the economics work for the rep manufacturers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoobs1971 Posted January 1, 2008 Report Share Posted January 1, 2008 Happy New Year, The Zigmeister Thanks for the very informative post! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevie7s Posted January 1, 2008 Report Share Posted January 1, 2008 I think a Group Buy is in order. If a group buy comes about, sign me up for a 2893-2, please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmt Posted January 1, 2008 Report Share Posted January 1, 2008 If a group buy comes about, sign me up for a 2893-2, please. Me too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
t Posted January 1, 2008 Report Share Posted January 1, 2008 I do not think that you want to agree with The Zigmeister? Or am I the one who mixes something up? check this prices what The Zigmeister quote... they are HIGH and this is what i told many times... the price will rise up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
894tom Posted January 2, 2008 Report Share Posted January 2, 2008 Happy New Year The Zigmeister. Welcome home for the holidays. Like Tourby says....only you can really set minds to rest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FxrAndy Posted January 2, 2008 Report Share Posted January 2, 2008 I would not say that they are that high, mabey a touch more than cousins uk have charged for the same and thinking about the exchange rate (if ziggy prices are in us) still not that bad. Have a look factory sealed remember cousins 2836 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
t Posted January 2, 2008 Report Share Posted January 2, 2008 i think this prices what The Zigmeister quoted are reseller prices and not public/retail prices. Public prices are higher. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RWG Technical Posted January 2, 2008 Author Report Share Posted January 2, 2008 i think this prices what ziggy quoted are reseller prices and not public/retail prices. Public prices are higher. Yes this is correct, the prices I quote are not retail prices. Wow, Tourby agrees with me, and I agree with him...is this a sign of what is to come in 2008??? Two firsts in one day. RG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
t Posted January 2, 2008 Report Share Posted January 2, 2008 Yes this is correct, the prices I quote are not retail prices. Wow, Tourby agrees with me, and I agree with him...is this a sign of what is to come in 2008??? Two firsts in one day. RG The Zigmeister. I had never any problem with you or your opinions. I respect you and agree on most of your opinions. I had only a problem one time as you defame me and my prices - that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordRasta Posted January 2, 2008 Report Share Posted January 2, 2008 Group hug!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RWG Technical Posted January 2, 2008 Author Report Share Posted January 2, 2008 Ziggy. I had never any problem with you or your opinions. I respect you and agree on most of your opinions. I had only a problem one time as you defame me and my prices - that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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