KB Posted March 15, 2008 Report Share Posted March 15, 2008 Let me state categorically that no one within the RWG Admin team believes TTK is a scammer and that accusation has not been raised against him. Ken Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sam_tgg Posted March 15, 2008 Report Share Posted March 15, 2008 I dunno, Sam. If I was one of the people who had been waiting for 6+ MONTHS for a watch that had already been paid for, I think the word "scammer" might have crossed my lips a time or two, as well. Peepshow, I am one of the people that have an open point, about a watch, for more than 6 months, for different circustances. I a do not think he is a scammer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watchmeister Posted March 15, 2008 Report Share Posted March 15, 2008 One has nothing to do the other. Neither good nor bad dealing got him banned. Completely inappropriate behaviour did. As it did at all but one other forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peepshow Posted March 15, 2008 Report Share Posted March 15, 2008 Peepshow, I am one of the people that have an open point, about a watch, for more than 6 months, for different circustances. I a do not think he is a scammer. Agreed, sam. I don't believe Neil is a scammer, either. However after months of waiting for a watch that was already paid for, I would be tempted to use the word. Let me be perfectly clear, I don't know of anyone out there that didn't eventually get their watch (maybe not the original watch ordered, but a watch, still) at some point. After months of waiting I would start to wonder, though.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seank1 Posted March 15, 2008 Report Share Posted March 15, 2008 I know I'm a little late to the party, I've watching it from afar on RWI but good job Admin/Mod Staff. You did the right thing. Who needs the caustic personality anyway. @Ken who is this r11 character anyway? Does he think everyone is lying? Oh BTW there is no conspiracy between RWI and RWG of that you can be assured. Mutual respect yes, collusion no. Sean K Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victoria Posted March 15, 2008 Report Share Posted March 15, 2008 3. It's Neil posting under a friends account and is attempting the damage control/spin himself. I'm replying to you about this, Peepshow, because the others who have been suggesting this might take it the wrong way. I think it's ludicrous and insulting to cast aspersions about R11co being TTK. The former has been a member here since the board first began. I'm sure the Mod Team would've looked their IPs up, and banned one or the other for duplicate accounts, if they were the same person. If not then, certainly now. Can't people see that even a black sheep can have loyal friends? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest uzername Posted March 15, 2008 Report Share Posted March 15, 2008 Funny thread... I just love TT|<'s rants... my favorite misquote "it's F#$^*ng watch no one ever died waiting on a watch" As long as there are watches TTK will be there somewhere so there are plenty of other places to find him... I just hope there is enough time to kill that I keep collecting... ^ <> \/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest uzername Posted March 15, 2008 Report Share Posted March 15, 2008 With the myriad of proxy servers out there why would anyone ban an IP range it is ludicrous to think that a retired solder and Private investigator would not have knowledge to log in any time he pleaases. The other question is a moral question... about how much to you want to mess with someone before they turn you in? Or worse make your identity public and reate other issues... I'm sure the Mod Team would've looked their IPs up, and banned one or the other for duplicate accounts, if they were the same person. If not then, certainly now. ^ <> \/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
narikaa Posted March 15, 2008 Report Share Posted March 15, 2008 Threats...schmetz You remember the story of the scorpion and the duck? The scorpion rides a duck to get across the river? The scorpion promises not to sting the duck but then does anyway halfway across. The duck asks him why when they were both most certainly going to die now. The scorpion shrugs and says, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victoria Posted March 15, 2008 Report Share Posted March 15, 2008 its what they do! Quite. I'm sad about this situation for the Mod Team, because of past friendships. But if you didn't see this coming, then, what can one say. And if one trusted him with intimate info, yipes... I wasn't kidding when I said earlier, Nemo me impune lacessit. That's Scotland's motto -- No one attacks me with impunity. EDIT: Wikipedia says: Scots translation In the Scots language, the motto is often rendered as "Wha daur meddle wi me?"[2] which, in standard English, literally means "Who dares meddle with me?". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryyannon Posted March 15, 2008 Report Share Posted March 15, 2008 I like this thread! It's better than The Shortest Thread Ever! Now, @Narikaa: I spent my tender and formative years in a Housing Project in Chicago. Attack them (in any form) They retaliated (massively) If at a distance....verbally At arms reach ..... usually with something edged: They would (literally) cut your ding-dong off. I saw this happen. Its what they did! But hey, I learned not to do it. A bit of discernement goes a long way.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sailinjack Posted March 15, 2008 Report Share Posted March 15, 2008 Neither good nor bad dealing got him banned. IMOP maybe it should have! Coupled with the other factors already mentioned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yellomen Posted March 15, 2008 Report Share Posted March 15, 2008 Funny thread... I just love TT|<'s rants... my favorite misquote "it's F#$^*ng watch no one ever died waiting on a watch" As long as there are watches TTK will be there somewhere so there are plenty of other places to find him... I just hope there is enough time to kill that I keep collecting... Well... who are you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryyannon Posted March 15, 2008 Report Share Posted March 15, 2008 Well... who are you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Tracy Posted March 15, 2008 Report Share Posted March 15, 2008 .............................................. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peepshow Posted March 15, 2008 Report Share Posted March 15, 2008 I'm replying to you about this, Peepshow, because the others who have been suggesting this might take it the wrong way. I think it's ludicrous and insulting to cast aspersions about R11co being TTK. The former has been a member here since the board first began. I'm sure the Mod Team would've looked their IPs up, and banned one or the other for duplicate accounts, if they were the same person. If not then, certainly now. Can't people see that even a black sheep can have loyal friends? Vic, I didn't imply that r11co wasn't a real person, I said it was possible that Neil was logging in with r11co's credentials since Neils acct is locked down. Those are two very different things, no? If I had a best mate that I felt was wrongly banned, I would be tempted to login with my account and post "his side" of the story... Perhaps my morals are just a bit more flexible than the average Joe? BTW, did you get my PM? Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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TwoTone Posted March 15, 2008 Author Report Share Posted March 15, 2008 This Thread has run its course... The community can take what they will from it... I suppose you can call our Founder & Admin a liar if you choose... Buy into the JFK conspiracy theory... Or simply take the two below quotes at face value... One thing's for sure... TTK is no longer a member of this community... And that won't be changing anytime soon... And if you truly feel in your heart that T has lied to you... Then I suppose there is no reason for you to support this Forum... Either in financial support, or content... Sad day if you ask me... Not because TTK has been Banned - he earned that... But because with all the years, hard work, and his own dollars out of pocket... T's integrity has been questioned... Not only by some of the members who have benefited greatly from his sacrifice... But by those who have served along side him... To those who call this place home... I say go start a new Thread about your newest piece... To those who don't... I say go find a place you do... TT Due to ongoing performance issues, culminating in the group buy, your admin team had reached a decision to suspend TTk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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