lanikai Posted June 28, 2008 Report Share Posted June 28, 2008 APROO PART II It has been 24 hours since I started the PR on my ROO .. at this time it is running at the same time as my Blackberry that was used to set the time..it has been on the winder .. I'll take it off the winder and see what the PR is like.. What do we have under the "Hood" or "Bonnet" .. take your pick ..(pun intended) the hexagonal caseback has 8 screws .. it was evident that the gasket had lube or silicone sealant on it.. the makers took the time to do this.. .. the Screws are very good quality .. from the metal QC .. to thread.. it was very, very smooth .. both screwing them off and putting them back on... I am impressed by the machining on this case set.. very nice.. close up of the engraving on the inner case back.. very tiny.. I am assuming this is replicated from the genuine.. There was one HUGE thing missing.. "Noise" ... for the first time (for me) there is absolutely no friction to the rotor .. this movement has actually been serviced and oil is evident .. ya think they are starting a trend here ?? Seriously the rotor feels like a Swiss.. and the gearing "feel" like it has been serviced..it definately does not feel like past movements.. I hope this validates issues members may have... I was going to get ambitious and go deeper .. but I will save that for another time and place when I'm not so tired.. I would be prone to errors.. (and this is my timepiece ) Thanks for viewing... Aloha~Cheers Lani Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
godzilla Posted June 28, 2008 Report Share Posted June 28, 2008 That movement sure looks amazing. Thanks for sharing (and having part II) lanikai. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
promotersf Posted June 28, 2008 Report Share Posted June 28, 2008 Nice Lani! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P4GTR Posted June 28, 2008 Report Share Posted June 28, 2008 Sounds like attention to QC on a nicely done piece. I'm impressed. Another fine hunk of alloy for the wrist, wear it well R. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
windyzz Posted June 28, 2008 Report Share Posted June 28, 2008 ALL I can say is "WOW" AMAZING MVMT, Hope all rep in the future would use the latest 7750 with regulator Anyway Wear it well!!!! * DROLLLLZ* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samurai Posted June 28, 2008 Report Share Posted June 28, 2008 Thanks for the updates lani Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajoesmith Posted June 28, 2008 Report Share Posted June 28, 2008 Now the smart thing to do would be to replace the balance wheel of this watch with the one from the HBB as the AP Roo has a closed case back it doesnt need to be this accurate, then it the HBB would be really close to the Gen! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubiquitous Posted June 28, 2008 Report Share Posted June 28, 2008 Fantastic!! Thanks for that insight... It's a great perspective into the build quality of this watch! I wasn't about to open mine up... Not yet, anyways... Good stuff, as per usual, R! I find that your posts rank as some of the most enjoyable for me to read. All the best, R Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bwhitesox Posted June 28, 2008 Report Share Posted June 28, 2008 Same here, I really enjoy reading your reviews Lanikai and have been following your AP ones closely as I love this watch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoobs1971 Posted June 28, 2008 Report Share Posted June 28, 2008 Wow, what an amazing finishing for a rep Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watchmeister Posted June 28, 2008 Report Share Posted June 28, 2008 Wow, fabulous post Lani. Blown away by the quality. I officially give in and will have to get one. Now a couple of mod questions. Is there anything on the original first generation MBW AP ROO that someone should consider swapping out on this one? Crown, bracelet, etc.? Should the screws on the gen be white gold in which case it might be well worth it to get it plated. Anything else of this nature? Based on your movement review it doesn't sound like it is worth it to morph in a Swiss 7750's parts. Lastly, you always have a good feel for what is coming down the pike. Your guess on the upcoming ROO models? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
takashi Posted June 28, 2008 Report Share Posted June 28, 2008 Awesome movement in there Let's see how long it will last. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mickey Padge Posted June 28, 2008 Report Share Posted June 28, 2008 Blimey, very high quality finish, I am even more tempted now! Maybe I will wait for more dial variations and leather straps, my wrist is too small from the SS band...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slay Posted June 28, 2008 Report Share Posted June 28, 2008 very nice pictures, thank you very much! would love to see a shot of the chrono module, but be carefull when taking the watch apart, you might damage it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capice Posted June 28, 2008 Report Share Posted June 28, 2008 tnx for sharing Lani, great pics m8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watchmeister Posted June 28, 2008 Report Share Posted June 28, 2008 Slay- We all wish this one had a separate chrono module. Then we could get those chrono pushers higher than the crown (or rather crown lower than the pushers and we would have one perfect watch. This one is set up with transfer "gears" but at least it appears to be properly engineered unlike our original seconds at 6 daytonas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swdivad Posted June 28, 2008 Report Share Posted June 28, 2008 Jeezus this is beautiful... Thanks for the pics and info Lani!! I'm holding out for the EOD.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dadog13 Posted June 28, 2008 Report Share Posted June 28, 2008 great pics//info and really nice movement...however, I will wait a little bit to see how the new mvt actually works...hopefully in the meantime they will release some new models (Navy please!) and will fix some little flaws.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Sql_pl Posted June 28, 2008 Report Share Posted June 28, 2008 It all alooks gerat. Wonder what other dials will be available. Hope they will make a good EOD with proper velcro strap, a NAVY or a good Safari.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swdivad Posted June 28, 2008 Report Share Posted June 28, 2008 It all alooks gerat. Wonder what other dials will be available. Hope they will make a good EOD with proper velcro strap, a NAVY or a good Safari.... I have an MBW EOD... just wondering what's wrong with the original MBW EOD velcro strap... is it very wrong? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajoesmith Posted June 28, 2008 Report Share Posted June 28, 2008 Slay- We all wish this one had a separate chrono module. Then we could get those chrono pushers higher than the crown (or rather crown lower than the pushers and we would have one perfect watch. This one is set up with transfer "gears" but at least it appears to be properly engineered unlike our original seconds at 6 daytonas. We still dont know if they have done thr movement properly or not yet, it may still have the same problems as the secs at 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lanikai Posted June 28, 2008 Author Report Share Posted June 28, 2008 Wow, fabulous post Lani. Blown away by the quality. I officially give in and will have to get one. Now a couple of mod questions. Is there anything on the original first generation MBW AP ROO that someone should consider swapping out on this one? Crown, bracelet, etc.? Should the screws on the gen be white gold in which case it might be well worth it to get it plated. Anything else of this nature? Based on your movement review it doesn't sound like it is worth it to morph in a Swiss 7750's parts. Lastly, you always have a good feel for what is coming down the pike. Your guess on the upcoming ROO models? Thank you all !!.. All your kind and generous words Humble me !! This is my first APROO kruz ... i never got one before due to the sub dial configuration.. there are members who have almost all the models that have been released previously released.. they could answer questions regarding mods and cannabalizing parts ... much better than I.. maybe start another thread along those lines.. As far as more models... giving it a calculated "guess" I would assume it would depend on how this is recieved in the industry... "world wide".. and how sales warrant this maker investing more in product development ... or rather the collectors investing in product development ... (puchasing the genuines for replication) .. as you explained a couple years ago that Honpo started.. But I would imagine if they come out with more models too quickly it would curtail sales on these models and dilute thier profits.... then again this is just "my" take on it.. On another note .. this movement having been services well from the factory is "Proof" that what Ziggy told us "ALL" in his review of the A7750 is based on facts and his expetise and not like detractors say.. that Ziggy does these things to drum up more business .... if anyone can remember Ziggy stated that the A7750 can be just as reliable "if" serviced properly.. and all the A7750 movements that Zig has serviced for me are running spot on ... He advised me .. to just stick with the A7750 ... it's a good movement. I'm not trying to stir things up here... but the majority of us have no doubt that what Ziggy endorses has nothing to do with him manipulating anything and even more ... nothing remotely resembling "marketing" himself.. what he said has come true or "was" true from the get go.. To Clarify ... the movement is much improved.. but what is the unknown defining entity is the "Mod kit".. how good is it.. this is a new release so only time will tell ... just follow the ABC"s of the chrono movmt when setting the time and getting the watch started .. ie. using the crown to gain all the PR.. and finally I am really going to need the Horned back strap to make this work on my wrist.. thank you again ALL !!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest carlsbadrolex Posted June 28, 2008 Report Share Posted June 28, 2008 Well, once again Lani has provided an incredible insight to the beautiful pieces he owns. Im going to have a real hard time handing over the one I ordered to my boss... I guess I will need to get another one for me! T Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fido Posted June 28, 2008 Report Share Posted June 28, 2008 hi kruzer, is possible to transplante the innerbezel and the dial+movement to a mbk case, this way you had the best of two worlds MBK general finish plus the new correcte dial and functions = ) i did that with and old chinese AP and a Empty MBK case i have. regards Wow, fabulous post Lani. Blown away by the quality. I officially give in and will have to get one. Now a couple of mod questions. Is there anything on the original first generation MBW AP ROO that someone should consider swapping out on this one? Crown, bracelet, etc.? Should the screws on the gen be white gold in which case it might be well worth it to get it plated. Anything else of this nature? Based on your movement review it doesn't sound like it is worth it to morph in a Swiss 7750's parts. Lastly, you always have a good feel for what is coming down the pike. Your guess on the upcoming ROO models? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest carlsbadrolex Posted June 28, 2008 Report Share Posted June 28, 2008 I think that the improvements to the case design are far more important that what may/may not be slightly accurate about the dial. The fact that they designed the watch so that the bezel screws are in fact tightened by the screws in the case back is incredible. The fit and finish seems to be quite on par. BUT of course there will be slight issues. We must remember that we are not replicating a $7000 Rolex. These are $20k watches that are DAMN CLOSE. Just my $.02 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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