spaghettiman Posted July 17, 2006 Report Share Posted July 17, 2006 http://www.rwg.cc/members/index.php?showtopic=8499 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
By-Tor Posted July 17, 2006 Report Share Posted July 17, 2006 I think it's genuine...or a frankenproject. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevin300z Posted July 17, 2006 Report Share Posted July 17, 2006 I agree with By-tor. All of the reps have silver circles around the numbers but this one has black. CG and crown looks like gen as well. Deep redhaut is dead giveaway this is gen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robertrinaustin Posted July 17, 2006 Report Share Posted July 17, 2006 I'm not sure about the arm, but the watch appears genuine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HighDef Posted July 17, 2006 Report Share Posted July 17, 2006 (edited) It look gen to me, unless it is a rep and you replaced the GMT hand with a gen. PT offered an EXP II with black circle markers. Edited July 17, 2006 by HighDef Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubiquitous Posted July 17, 2006 Report Share Posted July 17, 2006 My vote is genuine because of the bezel. I've only seen one bezel look like that, and it comes from Rolex S.A. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMK000 Posted July 17, 2006 Report Share Posted July 17, 2006 Genuine..... or franken with gen bezel and dial. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indyclmbr Posted July 17, 2006 Report Share Posted July 17, 2006 Gen based on dial, lume and bezel. It's a beautiful one as well. I love the EXP II! Climb on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the playful eyes Posted July 18, 2006 Report Share Posted July 18, 2006 How does the gen bezel differ from the rep bezel? I can't spot the difference....... Gen based on dial, lume and bezel. It's a beautiful one as well. I love the EXP II! Climb on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMK000 Posted July 18, 2006 Report Share Posted July 18, 2006 Bold and thicker numbers for gen bezel. So far only EL and Andy have some good ones. EL's is better but wrong date fond. Andy's has good date fond but has silver (sort of gun color) rings around the dot marks. .... rep makers dont want to make this damn thing right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruce79 Posted July 18, 2006 Report Share Posted July 18, 2006 I don't know much about EXPII (though I had one from abay) but I do know that the rehaut on the gen is more at a 90 degree angle with the dial face and deeper...the rep is more slanted and shallow...my vote is GEN. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmex Posted July 22, 2006 Report Share Posted July 22, 2006 I don't know much about EXPII (though I had one from abay) but I do know that the rehaut on the gen is more at a 90 degree angle with the dial face and deeper...the rep is more slanted and shallow...my vote is GEN. The way I can tell the difference between real and rep in the GMT Master II and Explorer II, is the 24 hr hand. On the rep it is located below all the other hands, next to the dial. On the gen it is located between the hour and minute hands (!). Cheers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HighDef Posted July 22, 2006 Report Share Posted July 22, 2006 The way I can tell the difference between real and rep in the GMT Master II and Explorer II, is the 24 hr hand. On the rep it is located below all the other hands, next to the dial. On the gen it is located between the hour and minute hands (!). Cheers. The new rep version of the GMT II has the correct hand stack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Obeyan Posted July 24, 2006 Report Share Posted July 24, 2006 The new rep version of the GMT II has the correct hand stack. certainly looks like gen dial. The lume just isn't that good on a rep. BTW- one of my favorite models and was my last gen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alextor Posted July 24, 2006 Report Share Posted July 24, 2006 GEN...deep rehaut and black hour markers! or a 'franken-plorerII' The black contour on the hour markers should be an easy fix for factories (actually the 12, 6 and 9 are somewhat black on the rep)...but I guess they are selling them as is... That's why if you are going to buy a rep ExplII get the black dial... just my 2cents Cheers Alex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomhighway Posted July 24, 2006 Report Share Posted July 24, 2006 Definately not a genuine bezel! Might be a genuine dial though but hard to spot in pics, nice watch though! wear it well TomH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kanerich Posted July 24, 2006 Report Share Posted July 24, 2006 I've got my gen in hand as I look at the pics . . . not sure why it's "definitely not a genuine bezel" as it looks pretty good to me. The crown looks a bit rougher than mine and something about the CG's and the bezel/end link fit doesn't seem quite right, but then mine is a later model with the SEL's from 2001, so it may be a manufacturing difference. I suppose it's possible this is a frankenwatch with a gen dial but I would believe it's the real deal. If this is a rep it's more perfect than any "perfect" Rolex I've seen offered by our dealers, that's all I can say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmex Posted August 2, 2006 Report Share Posted August 2, 2006 The new rep version of the GMT II has the correct hand stack. I've read about this "genuine hand stack" sequence, but I have yet to see a picture of one. U got any? It would take some real fanangling to give it the proper handstack... at least to the ETA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingkitesurf Posted August 3, 2006 Report Share Posted August 3, 2006 I got one with ETA 2836-2 and the correct handstack from Andrew. It also sets the normal time with the red GMT hand and the hour hand is set seperately in jumps just like the genuine. It wins 2 sec per 24hours on the atomic clock. I had it open two days ago and it is definitely an ETA. It's a superwatch... It has, however, the SS hourmarkers I would really like to change to black. Further the numbers on the bezel are a bit to far to the edge... It needs to be 1mm inside the outer ring. But a friend of mine with the real one couldn't see it was a rep while he was wearing his gen himself and kept it next to mine!!! Anyway here is a pic Left is my rep Right a gen. Below some more of my rep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bkatbamna Posted August 3, 2006 Report Share Posted August 3, 2006 I have a ExII from EL with the gen handstack as well. Bugger to regulate it though(I think because of the extra gears). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manuel Posted August 5, 2006 Report Share Posted August 5, 2006 Based on your pictures, it seems to me that gen has larger lugs. Maybe it's just me. Are you going tio trim the crwonguards? Very Nice watch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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