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Hi

I was going to look to buy one of the beauties from homer. A tourbillion. My question is that is it reliable?

I have a guarantee buy what experiences have your guys had with these movements.

It is a pricey watch so i would like some peace of mind that it would break down or lose accuracy within a couple months.

I've good experiences with my rolex movements and unitas from panerai. But the tourby is more expensive.

Can anyone input

Thanks

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I've never had an issue and I've owned three...generally they run within 2-10 seconds per day...my watchmaker adjusted my latest one and it easily meets COSC..especially (and as expected) when it's in the crown up/crown down position...I've banged my latest one on the doorjamb quite a few times by accident and scooting around people at parties/ at bars and have never had an issue... the Tourbillon mechanism appears to be very well manufactured and quite robust but that's just my opinion.

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So does anyone except king and homer have any tourbies?

I love the double tourbillion but is there anyone who can get one for a good price? seagull want like 3k for one i think.

I think it will be my next purchase as they are truly understated, but show a real passion for a good time piece.

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2 years with an asian Seagull movement tourbillon, no problems.

The Million Smarts sold by Homer use the Liaoning 5010 as the base MVT not the Sea-Gull ST80.

Tho a cheaper MVT there is nothing wrong with the 5010. It is a reliable MVT and spares are redialy available inc thru Homer himself. Homer can also service and repair these MVTs.

The ST80 is a more expensive MVT and more acurate however the 5010 can still be regulated to within COSOC, the ST80 to well within and the Beijing Watch Factory TB01-2 is reputed to approch some Euro Tourbys in accuracy.

Here are the basics on current China Tourby production.

Current Chinese Developments Beijing TB01-2 In 2000, the Beijing Watch Factory revisited the tourbillon concept and reworked it for limited production. The result was the TB01-2 flying carrousel-tourbillon, currently the most expensive production Chinese tourbillon on the market. It features a titanium flying tourbillon cage, and is usually elaborately decorated on both dial and movement. Beijing have also developed a double-tourbillon.

Liaoning 5010 Costing much less and thus reaching a much wider market, this calibre has enjoyed great success cased-up by http://www.tractionink.com/watch_wiki/inde...art_EnterprisesMillion Smart Enterprises for a variety of new international brands.

Shanghai The Shanghai Watch Industry Corporation launched their Classic Tourbillon as an exclusive Shanghai-branded product only, however they have since followed the trend and offered this somewhat expensive movement for sale to other watch companies. Returning to Breguet's original idea, this movement features a large balance-wheel on a common axis to the tourbillon cage. In 2007 Shanghai revealed their amazing Orbital Tourbillon, which features either one or two tourbillons mounted on a 12-hour carrousel platform.

PTS Resources FD-3032 This was the first Chinese tourbillon to be reviewed online. Clearly built to a budget, and featuring components from the humble Standard movement, it is nonetheless as impressive as any tourbillon that actually works. In 2007 PTS presented a prototype '12 Hour Karrousel' movement of unusual design and much higher grade.

Sea-Gull ST80 Most Chinese tourbillons owe something to the Blancpain flying carrousel-tourbillon design, but this is the one with the closest physical resemblance. Of higher quality than all but the TB01-2, the ST80 is still ery competitively priced. The newer ST82 features a common axis tourbillon similar to the Shanghai. Auto-winding is now available on both. In 2006 Sea-Gull released their ST8080 double tourbillon withone carrousel-tourbillon and one common axis.

Dixmont DG-8000 A latecomer to the field, Dixmont-Guangzhou have focussed on auto-winding on their tourbillons. The escapement appears so similar to that of the ST80 that it is likely that they buy Sea-Gull parts for their movements. The DG-8001 is similar but with a common-axis tourbillon.

Regards, Col.

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Col. is correct regarding the Homer Tourbillon. In my case, I have the full skeleton tourbillon with the Seagull ST80 flying duck. So how do you tell which you have? The ST80 looks very similar to the Blancpain design with a "flying duck" while the Liaong 5010 is the 4 screw design.

ST80

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Liaong 5010

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The Million Smarts sold by Homer use the Liaoning 5010 as the base MVT not the Sea-Gull ST80.

Tho a cheaper MVT there is nothing wrong with the 5010. It is a reliable MVT and spares are redialy available inc thru Homer himself. Homer can also service and repair these MVTs.

The ST80 is a more expensive MVT and more acurate however the 5010 can still be regulated to within COSOC, the ST80 to well within and the Beijing Watch Factory TB01-2 is reputed to approch some Euro Tourbys in accuracy.

Here are the basics on current China Tourby production.

Current Chinese Developments Beijing TB01-2 In 2000, the Beijing Watch Factory revisited the tourbillon concept and reworked it for limited production. The result was the TB01-2 flying carrousel-tourbillon, currently the most expensive production Chinese tourbillon on the market. It features a titanium flying tourbillon cage, and is usually elaborately decorated on both dial and movement. Beijing have also developed a double-tourbillon.

Liaoning 5010 Costing much less and thus reaching a much wider market, this calibre has enjoyed great success cased-up by http://www.tractionink.com/watch_wiki/inde...art_EnterprisesMillion Smart Enterprises for a variety of new international brands.

Shanghai The Shanghai Watch Industry Corporation launched their Classic Tourbillon as an exclusive Shanghai-branded product only, however they have since followed the trend and offered this somewhat expensive movement for sale to other watch companies. Returning to Breguet's original idea, this movement features a large balance-wheel on a common axis to the tourbillon cage. In 2007 Shanghai revealed their amazing Orbital Tourbillon, which features either one or two tourbillons mounted on a 12-hour carrousel platform.

PTS Resources FD-3032 This was the first Chinese tourbillon to be reviewed online. Clearly built to a budget, and featuring components from the humble Standard movement, it is nonetheless as impressive as any tourbillon that actually works. In 2007 PTS presented a prototype '12 Hour Karrousel' movement of unusual design and much higher grade.

Sea-Gull ST80 Most Chinese tourbillons owe something to the Blancpain flying carrousel-tourbillon design, but this is the one with the closest physical resemblance. Of higher quality than all but the TB01-2, the ST80 is still ery competitively priced. The newer ST82 features a common axis tourbillon similar to the Shanghai. Auto-winding is now available on both. In 2006 Sea-Gull released their ST8080 double tourbillon withone carrousel-tourbillon and one common axis.

Dixmont DG-8000 A latecomer to the field, Dixmont-Guangzhou have focussed on auto-winding on their tourbillons. The escapement appears so similar to that of the ST80 that it is likely that they buy Sea-Gull parts for their movements. The DG-8001 is similar but with a common-axis tourbillon.

Regards, Col.

Where can I get the Beijing TB01-2 watch?? Pics?? Thanks...

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Good question, I'm not sure anyone can answer.

I've only seen pics of a double tourbillon but if i could get my hands on one then its mine.

I've been told that it will take a week for me to receive my watch. so i'll put some pics up.

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