docblackrock

Back OT Panerai-wise, here's an interesting comparison. My local AD has a 213 (the gorgeous 1950 Rattrapante, twin brother of our well-known 212) - it's a gorgeous wearable timepiece with a very nice and relatively sophisticated Valjoux-based auto movement, and is limited to only 800 pieces worldwide, and comes in at less than $11k yet these babies as well as the 212 (of which i've seen 3 recently at around $8k) are not that difficult to source. I know what I'd spend my money on

Hmmm, well if we knew that we'd all have seen it coming and be sitting at home with our gen DRSD, 1675, Bond Sub....I mean, who would be that lucky? It's a bit of an anomaly to be honest, and the market shows absolutely no signs of slowing - some pieces have gone astronomical (1665, 1655, 6542, 6541, 1019, early Subs etc.), some are rising exponentially (1680, 5514 etc.) and some are starting to show signs of significant ascent (1675, 5513). Why? I don't know, but given that Rolex has now sold its soul and pished away any respect for its own heritage, it's been left to collectors to fully appreciate and revere these beauties....their increasing rarity in good condition and inherent value (movements alone) mean prices are rocketing. It's not an over-inflated market, it's a self-sustainable one IMO.

Euno is spot on as I said - it's obscene the value some people put on a basic stock movt and a bit of revisionist history V and VB - sorry but I still think you're wrong about the Fiddy's value. I stand by my LV Sub analogy, everybody wanted a piece of the LE 30th Anniversary Sub and many bought several to safe-queen away for a few years. Now you can't give them away and I know of one well-known vintage dealer who gets calls every week offering him LVs. The Fiddy is an even more extreme example of an artificially inflated market, and as we all know, those inevitably collapse at some point. Doesn't matter whether you're talking vintage Ferraris or golfing memorabilia, they all have their day in the sun before settling back down to normal values.

Pffff, what a crock. Can feel my hair growing mm's whilst I wait. Glaciers are moving. Tectonic plates are shifting. An asthmatic snail is making its way along the window ledge Anyway, back to your GMT (*diverting attention whilst I wait*)... You still left that gilt dial in the drawer? Tsk tsk. 'Cos it still looks like '64 mutton dressed as '79 lamb

Spit it out man!!! I've stewed enough thanks

Regardless I have a nice Tiffany dial just sitting waiting for it. But naturally, I want to know what the fly in the ointment is here Nanuq

To be honest, I've just dug it up off my hard drive, not looked at it for a good long while but now you have me concerned... I know it's an earlier late '60s dial for the case, but the only thing that looks a bit strange is the tick marks under the 'swiss T<25'?

Exactly! No fear - I have no intention of letting it anywhere near a Jubilee - one of the few things our Alaskan friend and I disagree on.

You forgot the use of the new toner cartridge, "like gen but better lol" - $75 Oh and "realigning" the fax paper in the machine - $50

From communication with Caesar, I believe that a motive other than watch collecting might be behind this behaviour, at least in the short term. More like 'appreciation' and I don't mean in the aesthetic sense either. C- there are easier and less morally-suspect ways of achieving your dream watch - regardless I'd steer well outside the vintage Rolex market if I were you, you're clearly not cut out for it.

CrazySaleMan >>>>

Oh yes, wrist shot...I'm actually going commando right now (I'd say 'naked', but a "minority group" here would get all squealy and excited, she really would ) But if it helps, I'm "thinking" of this recent favourite in my watchbox, newly installed with a nice domed T19.....

Nice choice Tazz - thinking of exact same model, very disillusioned with Mercedes these days time to jump ship (back) - the ones I want I can't afford (new CL Coupe). Same here Ape, seen a few around, a really beautiful yet understated car. Very me. Much cheaper though here - you must be mistaken on those prices in Norway - the A5 starts at

I wouldn't be so sure. And certainly not at 20k 'buy' price. It's almost the Panerai equivalent of an LV Submariner in terms of its ubiquitous appeal, which isn't great when you're dealing with a collector group that looks for uniqueness. And we all know how the market for LV Sub's has bombed. Still utter stupidity though whichever way you look at it, as the discerning cognoscenti's choice will always be the 217 - the destro features (case CG, dial, movt engraving) add a certain quirkiness in themselves, and it's also a limited run of only 1000 compared to the eponymous 1950 of the Fiddy.

....says the Fiddy-wearing girl UPDATE: THIS WATCH IS NOW BEING PITCHED TO OUR ASIAN FRIENDS - Cheers Angus

Personally I don't like it at all. Another of those horrible chainmailed, multilinked monstrosities Breitling seem to favour. The only bracelet of theirs that is decent is the new Pro II as seen on the Skyland Avenger, Steelfish etc. The Blackbird suits the leather deployant, and would probably look equally good on rubber.

Folded links Oyster >>> Jubilee >>>>>>>>>> (take your pic)

Talking of "fitting and proper" *cough* superdome and somebody's gen DRSD 1665 *cough* *cough* gilt dial and somebody's gen '64 1675 *cough*

Jubilee? Euuuuuw!!!! Sorry my friend, she'll be saddled up with a nice folded links heavy oyster

Whilst the troll is searching Google desperately, here's pic of my soon-to-be-arriving 1675, all being well. Belongs to a friend of mine, but I keep chipping away bit by bit....nag nag pester pester....not long now I hope

No please DO show your watches. Remember, I'm still waiting for that pic of that particular 1655 set at 6.52 on the 13th Are you going to post it or are you otherwise occupied with 'Dollie'?

Hmmm, the 028 - not sure about the aged tritium look here. I had one for a short time (2892 with Soprod PR module) from Eddie, but much preferred the polished case, clean dial and leaf PR indicator of the 027. As for the 203, I agree with V, that OEM strap does the watch no favours at all. I prefer a nice MPXI (strap is mine, watch is now madasboot's)

I think you'd have to be certifiably insane to pay 20 grand for a Fiddy.....why that's almost 10 grand of 'real' money! Seriously though I could list at least 10 or 20 watches that price range could buy me - even 3 or 4 gens plus an Angus/DSN Fiddy to boot. If the 'Risti numpties are paying that, then they are even more stupid and delusional than I thought - all for a prettified ETA/Unitas stock manual movt and the knowledge that there's another 1949 suckers like you out there? No thanks, think I'll pass.

only gone and spluttered grapefruit juice all over the place reading that this morning - thanks CrazySaleMan Nanuq - I have a spare one of these if you're interested? Future emergencies, wallet-sized special

Yep I remember this one too - a $200 profit is fair enough considering you got it for a song. One thing though - you really ought to donate/become a Supporter and thus avoid accusations and censure for putting up this back-door sales thread That said, I think you should SELL - Verbal should get first option