docblackrock

The UPO comes with a single side AR coat. The gen has a very distinctive double AR coat with a blue-black tint. I sent my UPO crystal to Jakub/k222 who's running an EU military-spec coating service for members which includes stripping existing coating. It's at least equal to the gen's coating if not better. See results HERE Scratches or not, I agree not every watch should have double AR and it can scratch if not careful, but in this case, it just transforms the UPO.

Never mind Busby, I was referring to 'Sir' Bob Paisley, winner of 8 league titles, 3 European Cups....yet never honoured by his country. Disgraceful I'm betting none had ever been near the Bridge pre-Abramovich? Gloryhunters make me sick. I have friends in Cobham and I refuse to visit as the whole place reeks of the club. Nouveau riche ignorant inbreds. Sorry just my unbiased opinion I beg to differ. Why else is Beckham's obscene salary being paid for partly by the MLS??? Will it work? That remains to be seen IMO. Journeymen European players like Abel Xavier and other pension-seekers will not help. I'll bet you anything you like he doesn't. And Millwall?! Hmm, I'd rather he keep his mouth shut and use his fame and fortune to do something more worthwhile and useful than take the advertising dollar and buy up Manhattan real estate. I'm sure he does only we don't hear of it due to the 'circus' that surrounds him. Funny, he was only 'remembered' when he was weeks away from dying of pneumonia in a run-down Budapest hospital. As I said, too little too late. Platini? Not even close IMO. As you rightly point out, never inspired his team almost signle-handedly to the ultimate victory. A very good player but not a great one. Even as a person, I'll take ZZ's occasional flashes of temper over what has become of the snidey Platini, Blatter's puppet at UEFA. Even in '85 he showed he only cared about winning the "match that should never have taken place" rather than what was more important. Errr, how exactly do you think he'll re-establish himself? I don't think he has anything left to prove. No MLS for him. He's like Cantona. Out at the top however the exit. On his terms. For most players, they'd like one final say after what went down that night in the 2006 Final. But not Zidane. Just wired differently, it's that simple. And for that I'm glad. "Nasty player"? What a load of crap. The classic flawed hero, that's all.

Some great Puskas info... "Look at that little fat chap. We'll murder this lot." In the long and inglorious annals of great British sporting disasters, few judgments have been wider of the mark than this remark from an England player, about to take the field at Wembley in 1953. Ninety minutes later Hungary had slaughtered England 6-3. They were the first foreign team to inflict defeat on England at Wembley. And what a defeat. It wasn't just the score. The style of football played by the Magnificent Magyars might as well have come from another planet. England, self-styled masters of the game, were humiliated. The "little fat chap" was Ferenc Puskas, the Hungarian captain. Indeed, he was an odd looking footballer. He was short, stocky, barrel-chested, overweight, couldn't head and only used one foot. Yet no one in Britain had seen ball skills like his as he inspired a performance that completely demolished England's reputation as a world football power. Puskas was known as the Galloping Major, a reference to the fact that he was an army officer playing for an army team. Later, when he was exiled in Spain with Real Madrid, he became known as the little cannon. For that one foot, his left, packed such a thunderbolt shot that he scored 83 goals in 84 internationals and he remains the only player to have scored four goals in a European Cup Final, one of three triumphs in the competition.

Yikes, so much to respond to VB... 1. The Scum are simply THE Scum, no matter who you belong to. They are known by that name by many many clubs. I must admit they have had some deserved success, albeit begrugingly, but they are still the Scum. Epitomised by that "knight of the realm" () - an alcoholic bullying hypocrite with an inferiority complex at the helm who thinks he's bigger than the game itself and whose tactical skills are confined to where to hide his morning whisky bottles. Yes I detest them, but it's nothing compared to my abhorrence of all things Chelsea and everything that club stands for....hence, Chav Scum - a fitting nickname 2. Sorry but the NASL quip was appropriate as the NASL standard was unimaginably inferior to Europe/S.America. Beckenbauer? Shuffling along on his Zimmer frame by then, playing for his pension plan, just as they do these days in Qatar. Nothing much has changed with the MLS, as Beckham must horribly realise by now, not that his obnoxious wife cares about his career 3. Teddy Sheringham? Your favourite player??? You've got to be bloody joking 4. Yes, sadly Pele is a certifiable nut. I remember the mad predictions, like Columbia. But what I hate most is seeming lack of integrity, or maybe it's just opinions. He'll say anything about anything or anyone, whatever they want to hear, just name your price. Like endorsing Viagra or claiming Wayne Rooney would win England the World Cup in 2006 In other words, the perfect politician 5. I don't think Eusebio is doing too badly considering. He hasn't been "forgotten" in the way that Puskas was. His circumstances at the end were truly shocking and so very sad to see - only a too-little too-late gesture by Real Madrid his former club, spared him further indignity. Compare his plight with that of Di Stefano, one of his peers, but who went on to become the club's figurehead. 6. Zidane - sorry V but internet age or not, the man is/was a genius. As close as anyone has come to Pele in transcending the sport. A symbol of both France AND Algeria (no rare feat!). Suggest you watch, Zidane, un portrait du 21e si

I'm far too young of course, but I recall my father (another Pele fanatic) raving about the time he attended an amazing World Cup QF and saw a player that was the Brazilian's equal.....Eus

Best for me pished his talent away badly so does not deserve his place amongst the true greats like Pele, Maradona, Puskas, and Zidane. Those guys also did it on the WORLD stage. Best should have stayed at the Scum. Moving down to London away from the fatherly guidance of Matt Busby, he was the first in the line of "champagne Charlies" - players who were more interested in a lavish lifestyle and were more often on the cover of newspapers than the sports pages. He spawned this phenomenon (the Ashley Cole types). Not a great legacy to leave . Sad that he's remembered for that more (wasting his own talent) than he is for his football. Still, here's the old cliche'd clip of him dribbling through an entire defence...note it WAS the North American Soccer League in the 70s though

No, not England. John Barnes 1 Brazil 0. In the same way it was Germany 1 Liverpool 5 back in 2001, you remember that one surely?

This is like a guesssing game Please fix your YT links! Mickey, I'm assuming this is Digger Barnes in the Maracana??? Even Brazilians say this is one of the best goals ever scored in Brazil.

I happen to agree with VB on this eternal question. I know, it's obviously time to call it a night! Maradona was a great individual player but did not respect the game or his opponents. Pele almost transcended the game and inspired people, even those outside of football. My favourite image of him is still the most famous - that shirt-swap with Bobby Moore in '70. "See you in the Final..."

No need to apologise You know, I actually don't rate this goal THAT highly, England's defence was all over the place browning their trousers, and Shilton well, what an embarrassment. I prefer Messi's almost carbon copy goal scored last season.

Pah, fluke. Xabi Alonso did it better. From farther. Twice. Or was it three? Consecutive goals. Now THAT's class!

And to show I'm not biased, probably the best goal I've ever seen.....and scored against my team Pablo Aimar Interesting fact - this goal was cited as the goal that got the then-Valencia coach, Rafa Benitez, the manager's job at Liverpool, the club it was scored against. I still think that team was the best of modern times. Sure it didn't have the success of the '90s Milan side, but Valencia 2001-2004 won two La Liga titles in three years (breaking up the Madrid-Barca monopoly) and a UEFA Cup. They were nicknamed "the Crushing Machine" for the way they ruthlessly and relentlessly closed down the opposition, whilst playing truly beautiful football, as this team goal finished off by Aimar, showed. They got a standing ovation from the Liverpool fans that night.

It's known as "football" or the translated equivalent throughout the world. *rant over* Ok, now I'll bite... Arguably the best strike of modern times...(the timing, the pressure, the importance, and the subsequent outcome )

What's "soccer"? Hmmm.

I'm not sure you're considered 'fair game' these days Gran, it's almost too easy

Stand by and wait for this thread to be repeated in a month or two's time..... I can feel it already.....the Ultimate SeaDweller, the Super Sea-Dweller, the Perfect SeaDweller, and so on ad (nauseum) infinitum. p.s. kudos Toad, nice writeup, sure others will find it useful

As it gets

Yep.

1. I already said few posts back it's a straight painless swap 2. There is no difference in date position. 3. The only thing you'll need to do is swap/put a date overlay on the 2846 datewheel, either the stock MBW overlay or another (i.e. Ubi's/Archi's).

Yes of course, same era same calibre movt. Assume you meant 1680 as the 1650 is a quartz

Firstly, check to see if you got a 2836 or a 2846. The former runs at 28,800bph which is all wrong for the 1665. The latter runs at 21,600bph which is much closer to the genuine c.1570 at 19,800bph. If you have lucked out with a 2846, then leave well alone, no need for any movt transplant. If not, then it's a painless swap to put a 2846 in there re. fitting, hands etc. Not that expensive a movt around 60usd or so.

Wrong university Fellow of my old college. Never heard him speak though, but have Dawkins. Both great minds, the latter much more of the evangelist/populist.

That's exactly what I mean, there just HAS to be some type of physical failsafe procedure in place for reaffirming ID. Unfortunately, he's not dealing with logical accomodating (Yahoo) Norway, but illogical xenophobic beauracratic (Yahoo) France Better take your medication before you make that call Ry

Pug, any idea what's the most likely point of violation then? Just curious as I'm Mac both home and work.