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Got this today from Joshua. This watch looks really good. The details are amazing and I have more than 5 reps, this tops all of them. Some thing you should know before buying one:

1. The strap size is not configurable! You need to cut the rubber strap with a knife to adjust it to your wrist size. I know it sounds ridiculous but I took it to a watch repair shop and they confirmed my thoughts. So that means you only wear it yourself and you cannot give it as a gift after a few years or sell it.

2. The screws on the strap are loose. I tightened them and they still get loose.

3. If you order one, tell Joshua not to put a sticker on the nickel case because when I removed mine, it left a stamp on the case which damaged the nickel plating beyond repair. It is not very obvious but it is annoying if you know it.

I will post some pics later.

Overal 9/10 (if i fix the screws problem I will put a 10/10)

For some reason, I thought the bezel was Ti and the case was brushed steel on the gen. Could be wrong though.

Looks like a decent rep, but far to inaccurate with today's fairly high Pam standards... I'm still waiting patiently for a A7753 based 187.

I bought from Josh a PAM187 47mm which was my favorite watch. (the tuna watch is ugly in front of the 187). Too unfortunate that my cleaning maid stole it from me last year and now it is out of production.

Someone said here that a newer version is coming out?

R.I.P. PAM187

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I just received this amazing piece and I thought to share my review with you.

The watch is VERY heavy. So heavy that someone who holds it would really believe that this is real gold. The crown moves very smoothly and the buttons are pressed smoothly as well. The bracelet is very good quality and the screws were a bit loose but I tightened them and now it is perfect. I have a very thin wrist but I like the contrast that this huge shiny piece makes.

The accuracy not 100%. One difference is the 3 small dial in which the real one has different numbers in them (maybe in the original the seconds dial is at 3 o'clock, mine at 9). Another difference is the date in which the replica the numbers are red and in the original they are black. I am posting pics of the real one and then my watch. Compare yourselves.

PS. this watch is out of stock in most dealers. I bought the leather strap version and a Steel Bracelet was put in the package as well. I had to take the bracelet to the goldsmith to make it yellow gold. The accuracy in the new yellow gold tone was more than 80% I believe.

ORIGINAL

REPLICA

Looks very nice. I still haven't read any opinion on the gold colour though. Is it accurate? I think that the only gold genuine that exists is with the white dial

I was considering buying the latest AP RO Gold ( which came out a few weeks ago)

http://www.trustytime.com/index.php?main_p...products_id=814

However I couldnt find the genuine models, except the 14790

http://www.kronosclub.com/ROC/mainX.asp?mnuNum=14790

The gen is also 38mm while the rep 36 and the colour of the rep looks more like rose gold than yellow gold

Do you think this is a bad rep?

I received yesterday my 187 from EL. It is misaligned as well but I figured out that if you put the bezel at the 45 mark on top (at 12) and the arrow on the 3mark then it sits correct!

I love this watch. It is a beast and it feels very heavy and expensive

This is even better looking than the genuine! (GENUINE 187 pic below)

The gen's marker are dark. EL's model looks more shiny.

I couldnt resist. I ordered one. I have to sell my arktos now since it is similar

According to replicawatchreport, the most accurate PAM today is the PAM183.. not even experts can recognize it. I dont like the 111. My first ever replica was the Sumbersible Regatta and I LOVE it. My second was a 1950 for Eddie Lee and the third a PAM147 from Joshua. All of them are amazing

here is a pic of the regatta

Mine has arrived with a missing screw + 2-3 screws almost gone out from the bracelet. I gave it like this to a friend (it was a gift) and he told me that he would take it to a watchmaker he knows well to fix it. I hope he can fix it otherwise I will make complaints to Joshua.

I got the 231 Rose Gold for my girlfriend and it looks fantastic on her. The only thing I didnt like so much was the colour of the pink gold. It looks more like yellow gold to me.

Please Dealers, stick with pp. I am sure if you advise the sellers to be careful in descriptions etc you will have very few problems. A delaer a month ago told me to put in the description "Maria's gloves" and I bet that he didn't have any problems with that transaction. (it was around $400).

E-gold and all the others slow and inconvenient services suck big time. Find a way to overcome pp's problems.

Nice one. But I wouldnt have the guts to wear a 500.000$ watch in my wrist knowing it is fake. I would like to have one in my collection though.

I want to buy a nice watch for my friend who is 35 years old and dresses with costumes almost every day. I am between these 3 watches from Eddie Lee

1. AP rose gold limited edition

http://s12.photobucket.com/albums/a210/sun...%20ROSE%20GOLD/

2. Patek 5053

http://s12.photobucket.com/albums/a210/sun...Y/PATEK%205053/

3. Patek 5054

http://s12.photobucket.com/albums/a210/sun...Y/PATEK%205054/

I think the patek 5054 and 5053 are fantasy watches? But what about the AP rose gold?

Thanks in advance

PS. password for EL's site is "ok"

I just received yesterday the VC10018 Perpetual Calender RG from Joshua

http://perfect-clones.com/product_info.php...products_id=647

A friend of mine is working to the the largest watches store in Athens which has all kinds of watches and I wanted to show him this watch and see hopw easily he would recognise that it is a replica.

So I went in and after I greeted him I showed him this piece. He almost started shaking when he saw the VC and while I was removing it he put both his palms under my wrist so I dont drop the watch and damage it. "WOW, where did you get this? It is fantastic." I gave it to him and he was commenting all the time how nice it was until he turned it over and saw the ETA 2836-2 mechanism and he immediately realised that it wasnt a VC mechanism. He still told me that he has never seen such a good replica and he gave the watch to his master, a 60 year old guy who is working there for 40 years and has seen all kinds of watches.

When he saw it he said. Oh my God, that is the Limited Edition VC, it costs around 60.000 euros. Again the moment he saw the back he said. [censored]. It is a replica. I dont believe this...

To sum up, the guys were astonished from how good this replica was and said that NOBODY in the world could recognize that this watch is a replica while you wear it. (and they have seen hundreds of reps in their lives, they said this was the best). The old guy also said that he has seen this watch, the real one, once in his life a few years ago and he thinks that it had a power reserve as well.

To be honest this watch looks VERY good but I havent seen the real one anywhere. Is it a fantasy model? I dont care if it looks that good and even the experts rub their eyes

Please test the panerai submersible (i have the regatta version). I am curious to see how much submersible it really is

I want to buy the PAM092 Arktos and a dealer from this forum has 2 versions. One with 21J movement and the other with 7750b1. I heard that the 7750 is all about unreliability (especially the old ones) but I cant find any review on the 21J movement. Can some expert from here tell me which is more reliable?

Hi everyone, I just got my first rep from Trustywatchguy (a PAM submersible) and it is perfect. I will leave the dealer review when I get my second watch from him (which is on its way).

Yesterday I ran into this site www.perfectswiss.com and I got curious. I read here that 99% of the mainstream sites that sell replicas are ripoffs that sell inferior watches for around 1000$. This site however seems different as they state that their watches are waterporoof up to 30 meters and they have an ETA 27 jewels plus they give 1 year warranty.

Anyway I would never pay 1500usd for a replica but has anyone else had any experience with this site?

Oh my God, I wanted to buy some watches today and I was negotiating with the hijackers all day. Lucky me to have read this message the last moment before I made the payment. (cause its my first time I deal with Jos and I dont know his account, I would send the money to them)

Phew, that was close