troaa
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about 3717...
Do hands of a7750(Asian) compatible with hands of eta7750 ?
I heard It's ok! ,but I read it ( http://www.puretimewatch.com/product/top-gun-chronograph-full-ceramic-v2-swiss-eta-7750/ )
It says "Remark: Replicated from a genuine IWC 3782, the hands are specially made for Swiss ETA-7750 movement."
does it mean that hands of a7750 are not compatible with hands of eta. ?
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Some peopel have applied graphite powder to the movement which has had successfully restarted the majority of them. As far as a reliable movement out of the box goes, there isn't one unfortunately
Thanks.
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I saw the 3714 that have the fixed mov. in local seller web.(In facts, I did not see the movement.)
But, I didn't find that in RWG. Also, I didn't find that watch in Other dealers' web of RWG.
Do you hear or know that?
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You are a brave man......dissecting a tourbillon! Cool!
No, I'm not disassembling all parts.
Just Cleaning the front glass.
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I opened Back-case cap.
I try to access front dial, but Movement doesn't apart from case.
(apart crwon & mov. fixing bolt)
Because dial is inside case hole. Mov. with dial spin,but it can't be aparted!.
I think there is front case cap.(just my thought)
What should I do?
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Good! I have gen montblanc fountain pen(p145) & waterman ruby liaison & waterman serenite blue.
I'm the fan of fountain pen!!!
Rep pen is the first step to lead gen pen!!! ^^
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@troaa:
I think where a lot of the confusion comes from is that the Chinese have copied (homaged) the original Blancpain flying "duck" tourbillon movement and have an actual flying tourbillon movement of their own that looks sneakily a lot like the BP tourbi. But its a real working tourbillon and not some exposed "open-heart" balance wheel that rep. manufacturers used to (and still do today) use for mimicking a tourbillon cage, plus they can punch out thousand of these because of the highly skilled and cheap labor market. Unfortunately, rep. manufacturers have purchased these asian made genuine flying tourbillon movements and placed them in high-end name-brand replica cases which is a travesty, since the movements themselves are highly complicated in labor (and cost) to make, even for the Chinese. In some people's mind (including mine) it is a waste of a perfectly good tourbillon movement, as now it will always be viewed as a cheap "fake" since the real genuine high-end watch brand tourbillon looks nothing like the replicas that try to replicate the original. I challenge anyone to find me a replica tourbillon that even comes close to an orginal it represents.
The Chinese tourbillon is a great movement all on its own (albeit without the fine typical genuine tooling on the gears) and I would urge you to purchase one with no brand name on the dial or case which is still possible. It is still champagne high-end mechanical gear-art at beer prices if you know where to look.
The Chinese made this flying "duck" tourbillon (Seagull ST80) which closely mimics the looks of the famous Blancpain to a tee, unfortunately, it was made with the tourbillon cage at 6 and the original Blancpain tourbillon cage at 12. Why can't the rep. manufacturers just simply try to reverse the movement? It's because the guts are completely mirrored backwards (isn't that the way between East & West anyway!). To put the stem on the left hand side and flip the movement 6 to 12 is not so simple as the gears are all reversed and you'd be looking at the back of the tourbi cage. To try and take that apart and reverse is not worth the effort for the Chinese flying tourbi movement manufacturers (Million Smart & Seagull) as they have sold hundreds of thousands of these tourbillon movements to every low-end genuine manufacturer around the globe, why change a good thing to just sell a few to the rep. manufacturers and face lawsuits of copyright infringement from Blancpain? That's why you see these same movements in "Swiss, German, French, US, and quasi-euro manufacturers" tourbillon lineup at stupid prices of 4X8 times the price of an exact same $500 no-name watch you could pick up here or on ebay. These quasi-genuine watch assemblers buy the movement from China and then claim the watch is assembled in "Germany-France-Italy-US" or elsewhere (which could be true), given a hokey euro-name (i.e: Stauer, Aeromatic, Steinhausen, Tourous, Francois Rotier, Herrmanns, Stuhrling, Ticino, Auguste Galan, etc....... and counting) and marketing claims that it follows the old world heritage (to give it that euro flair) of the original tourbillon invention. In their defense, I will say they usually give you a 1-year warranty which the $500 sellers won't but for the inflated price its not worth it.
A no-name asian self-wind carousel tourbillon watch, $500, a Blancpain carousel tourbillon, $67,000, both genuine. You decide which you would buy. Not a hard choice for the less-than-millionaire everyday watch aficionado. That is why you see this same Chinese flying/centre tourbillon subject discussed on genuine watch forums as well (TZ, Watchuseek). Its a real movement in the generisti's eyes, not a copy! The generisti buy it at the inflated prices, lucky you are a member of a rep. board and know the truth behind the hype!
Thanks a lot!!! Omni!!! Your advice is so helpful! thanks again!
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Oh! Really?!!!!!
I thought flying tour. mov. is copy of gen one.
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Is there gen flying tourbillion?
I can't find it.
Only I saw chinese flying tourbilion.
Have you seen it?
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david~~Looks good!!!
Show me your ability!!!!!! I wish to see your ultimate 201a!!!
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If I remember correctly, Lani put his new Diver in a bowl of water and it kept running.....so normal waterproofing seems to be quite good. Though I would suggest to keep it away from water as much as possible.
I have ahad this watch for over 2 weeks now....and it is one of the best made reps you will ever see......amazing quality
Thanks samurai!
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I know probably new 7750 work good. But, I saw my local watchmechanic photo of overhauling new7750.
That watch is not dirty to work in photo. However, Cleaning is not profitable to work long use.
Another photo showed me assembling part's wrong. This one work correctly except chrono part gear.
(this is big problem to me. I wanna buy this watch to use chrono often.)
So, watchmechanic of my city recommend overhaul to use longtime.
I love my watch. No problem either gen or replica. also, I wanna to use long day!
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I didn't like big watch,but have more been attracting big watch.
I'm interesting in Graham Chronofighter Oversize Diver.
This watch case-back is Not case-back of screw method.
I worry about protecting from water,although there is rubber-material between case-back and watch case.
and, I have not experience of buyin A7750 mov.-watch.
I heard A7750 is dirty & need to overhaul. Chronofighter Oversize Diver is $418 at least. Overhaul cost is around $100.
I know advantage & disadvantage of replica watch.
But this watch is so cool,don't you think?
Could you advise to me? Do I regret that buying this watch?
Pls,tell me your opinion.
3717 hands
in The IWC Area
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Thanks