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Vester71

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  1. Yes and this is why people should sit back and think about how much it would cost to get your project done.

    I have seen too many members here spend a fortune on a top franken and then realise 1) can't recoup much of the costs back if they sale or 2) the genuine version costs not that much more.

    But it's a hobby too. The fun part is finding the parts and completing the build - not about the investment.

  2. AP - Porsche (RO and ROO is the 911 equivalent)

    Richard Mille - Pagani (very exclusive, use of special materials)

    Christophe Claret - Koenigsegg (high and innovative complication)

    Rolex - Mercedes (large range of product from low to high)

    Breitling - Jaguar

    Zenith - Corvette

    Panerai - Lexus

    Hublot - Lamborghini (materials usage)

    Omega - Toyota (high number of watches/cars produce each year)

    Tissot - GM (high number of watches/cars produce each year)

    IWC - BMW

    Breguet - Maserati

    JLC - Audi (high complications for JLC compare to Audi technology)

    Blancpain - Lotus

    Casio - Hummer (g-shock are tough)

    Tag Heuer - VW

    Patek - Ferrari

    Vacheron - Bentley

    Lange - Rolls Royce

    Smartwatches - Tesla

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    Nails it for me

  3. While most of us are not happy with the increase on prices of reps, we seem to grouse and [censored] about it, but then we pony up the money and buy. The problem that I see is the added money that we spend on getting one "right" Just for example, lets use and FC V whatever as and example

     

    FC diver new cost                                                                                   528.00 USD

    AR'ed crystal or stock crystal relumed                                                    100.00-125.00 USD

    Relume                                                                                                    130.00 USD

    Movement conversion or slow beat Tissot                                               265.00 - 300.00 USD

    Case polish                                                                                                75.00

     

    Total                                                                                                         1098.00 -1158.00 USD

     

     

    Even with all these expensive mods, you have a nice watch, but this still doesn't address the inner bezel faults, the size and spacing of numbers, DW issues, etc. So what you have is a watch that has doubled in price and it's still only  95-97% , not 99%. The biggest problem with spending double what the watch costs to get it from 94% to 97%, occurs when you try to sell it. You are NOT going to recoup your modding costs. Some folks are luckier than others, sometimes it depends on the model and popularity, but in reality, you will be lucky if you get the cost of the watch and half of your modding costs back at sale. Also, we don't usually factor in the price of shipping a watch back and forth between modders, the frustration factor of getting a freshly modded watch home, only to find out the it's now running 30 minutes per day fast or slow, The chrono subdial hands are not zeroed, and on and on and on!! I believe that all of these factors are a big reason that some of our most active members here, folks who have built or had built some pretty amazing watches, eventually give up in frustration and switch over to gens. 

     

    So as folex said, I would much rather pay twice the price upfront for one that is 99% and can be worn straight out the box, needs no mods and is accurate and reliable.

     

    And that's a conservative estimate on costs.

     

    Would love a 99% accurate version, but even then we'll find mods to do, like servicing, sealing, etc :)

  4. Watch: 
    I'm on my second AP diver with a low beat conversion. First was a stainless from Vac from 3 years ago and I sold it almost immediately as the watch was too big (or so I thought). Turns out it was running about 10 min fast a day after Vac regulated. The buyer had it serviced and I figured to was a fluke and never asked about it again.
     
    I have a new carbon diver with a custom forged carbon case and the low beat mod - brand new and was just serviced and regulated by the gentleman that built it. 
     
    Movement:
    A2824 that received a conversion to 21,600 bph with a genuine ETA balance wheel, escapement wheel and fork. To improve reliability and power reserve a genuine ETA barrel and mainspring were added. Movement was cleaned, oiled and regulated during assembly.
     
    Issue:
    Running 30+ minutes fast a day already. I've done a little reading and think there might be something with these conversions that make them tough to regulate or run fast due to the parts used.
     
    Anyone have any experience here?
     
    Thanks!
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