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Generally the quality is OK, I'd definitely say that his quality control is slipping. Make sure you get good pictures of the piece before they ship. The first 005 I ordered had issues with the print on the dial being inconsistent. Some of the lettering on the dial was darker than others.

And then the lume on the pieces is decent, but again inconsistent across the watch. The lume on the hands is brighter than the dial lume also. Others have also complained that the L SWISS MADE L isn't centered below the 6 - and I'd have to agree with the consensus. But again, this its a rep watch - it all depends if you're the type of guy who will be bothered by these little issues. It still is a beautiful watch though.

The 253 is a beautiful looking watch. Might be a tad hard to find at an AD, I think it was a limited edition in 2006. But yeah, I have a 6.5 wrist also and it felt a tad large at first. I also got some comments from some folks that it was a huge watch, but I just loved the way it looked on my wrist. Wears really comfortably. Ended up giving it to my father, who has even smaller wrists and he loves it too.

The 111h, classic. I believe the Swan Neck is the first picture in the second row on Angus' website. Refers to the portion of the movement where it sorta looks like a swan's head. Cannon pin fix corects a problem with many of the PAM reps, where the pin the hands are attached to are installed a tad short - thus appearing recessed.

The group buy idea sounds interesting.. if we can get the costs down to something a bit more reasonable - say $100.

Great looking pics there Raymond. I'm waiting for my 111H to arrive from DSN, so it has a home next to my 113H.

Grats! Got any lume shots?

Great review there Shultz, and awesome looking pictures. Mind if I ask what camera you used to take the pics?

Good find there Fat. Its nice finding out more history on the watch thats rapidly becoming my favorite brand.

Great looking watch TJ. I'm waiting for DSN to ship mine - I'll hopefully receive it next week.

Grats Dave, Looking good. I've been on the fence, trying to decide which white face PAM I want to get.... haha, still can't decide.

Beautiful looking phone Jay, grats!

Ahhhhhh!! What's Pooh doing to Eeyore??

Nice cufflinks and watch of course.

Wow... great job on the crystal Chief! When I get my 253 modded, I'm going to have to get one of those Chief AR jobs.

Wear the 250 well Lani.

I've seen two in the wild here in DC. Both 111's, one on a guy and another on this blond. It looked pretty good on her wrist.

I love Pizza and if I was Donald Trump rich....... I would still love pizza.

Mmmm, pizza. Not much better out there than Pizza and cold beers..... maybe a PAM

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I have been on these forums for awhile now, and in this rep game for at least 8 years before I found forums. I started buying best quality available reps on Canal St NYC years ago. From what I have read and saw with my own eyes is that Panarai forum and its following is by far the largest on any forum, and there are so many PAM geeks trying to buy those good PAM's, but they all have more issues and defects then Rolex and Breitling super reps still. I hope dealers are watching these forums and super PAM 1:1 reps are on their way, it only would be a good business decision for them to make as many PAM super 1:1 reps from GEN as a sample, and instead they come out with Corum, U-Boat, Grand Carrera, Graham etc. super reps, that have a very small following if any, most people just buy them because they are the closest to gen outhere, and nothing else good is available. BCE, Skyland, SA are all great super reps and I am glad they make them, they now need to make Navitimer and Navitimer World super rep as well.i But I think dealers would make more money selling 99% acurate 111E-G+,112, 005, 196, 88, 127, 217, 104, 183, 190, 233, 232, 177, 253, 000 to name a few. They need to make movts for open case models more acurate with bridge stamping on E-G series and on H+ series movts. I mean come on, they can make a BCE with a lot more complex dials so acurate and so close to gen, and they can't get the font size and spacing right on 104 and 111 dials?! How hard would it be to make better bridges with better blue stamping of OP on H series movts or like gen stamping of E series movts on E series movt using high beat clones? I just hope they are making these movts as we speak to put in these reps that are now out of stock due to movements shortages, otherwise they are missing out on a lot of cash from us. It takes a good crown, super C3 lume, correct crown and CG with flush lever pin and correct casebacks on them and sell them for $450 so you do not have to do any mods after sale, people would scoop them up like hot cakes. Chime in if you have any inside info on super pam reps coming up, since I see Cartel is pumping out new super reps at least one once a week now.. How is with me?

I'd drop $450 for Pam super rep in a heart beat!

Thanks to everybody who has been contributing to this site! I'm looking forward to digging thru all of your research and settling on a reputable dealer!