MrBeat

The shock absorber on the first one is a KIF Trior model, very common on many ETA's. As for the rotor, since ETA makes many ebauches and has a number of finishes available (for companies like Sellita), this rotor could simply have been left blank for the addition of the watch manufacturers logo...the fact it's blank doesn't cause concern. Not when everything else appears to be ETA.

I think they are both genuine movements from the pics supplied on the ads.

RG

What do you think about the PH that is stamped just beside the ETA-logo?

I have not seen this on genuine ETA.

PS