kronos twin

awesome. I bet he's actually a sweet little fella.

Congratulation, man. It gives me something to look forward to. Well done!

They look like Breil watches as well.

totally cool. I'm going to give this to a niece or nephew so I can check it out.

excellent watches. I would like to own a Daylight one day, but I'm going to wait for the steel blue edition. Good choices. wear in good health.

I'd love to see a proper rep of these pieces. Wyler used to have a very good reputation in the 70s, and the new line is really great.

this is great stuff. Thank you very much for posting this. I'm planning on working on a sec at 6 manual project sometime soon. You may have convinced me to choose a HAM instead of the ETA 6498. Thank you!

I want one. Do they sing as well?

I've been waiting my whole life for this one. This is truly the grail watch we've all been made to believe never really existed.

nmachen, say it ain't so... man, now I'm going to have to search the couch for spare change. wow!

I think I'm going for a silver themes myself. I'm really impressed with it.

Yes, this is now my favorite ROO (non barichello, non-Montoya). does the gen have black lume? Does the rep?

I'm a fan of mechanical movements, because you have to pay attention to them. I also feel, although this is just a feeling, that they're more reliable than automatics. That's not grounded in any truth, but I like the fact that winding them yourself achieves the same result as putting an auto on a winder (I don't manually wind my autos). I like to have a quartz or two as beaters, but I think the intangible factor, the idea of an energy source created by the mechanical soundness of the timepiece is by far the most important thing for me, and it trumps all other considerations. But I do like swatches, and I'm not super keen on their mechanical pieces so much. I think this is because their allure comes from their history of making battery powered watches, which saved the swiss watch industry during the quartz boom. So history plays a big role as well.

looks fantastic, man. Great job. enjoy it. And if you ever feel it's too modded, feel free to trade me for my unmodded CD. I'll be glad to help you out!

This is a unique and interesting watch with a very complicated design. you won't find good reps of this watch because... well... this is a unique and interesting watch with a very complicated design. Not to say other reps out there aren't interesting, but this watch isn't popular enough to merit the cost put into reverse engineering it. There are some good reps out there, but not very good RJs. You'll find a couple available from some collectors here, but they are basic models with lots of flaws on them.

that was an amazing video. i could watch it all day long. thanks for sharing.

Looks great, Lani. Would you say it has the closest feel on the wrist to a PAM? I'm thinking of getting the special edition with the white dial.

probably a chaumet class one. It looks like it'd be worth a try, but not enough to care. And then there's the watch I always put off, which is the Roger Dubuis Chronoexel, which looks great, but always takes a back seat. I may regret not getting that one.

I'd go for this:

Yes, avoid those guys. They claimed to be able to sell a 100K tourbillon last time I checked. Look out! As for the watch, I dunno. It's quite lovely. I can't recognize it, and from the official website, it doesn't seem like it's part of the current lineup. It looks more like a JLC than a Tek with the way the numbers and case shape are configured, but that's just me. if you find out, let us know!

and they "collect" the heck out of our cash!

I enjoyed watching that. Thanks very much. I wonder what percent of the population get entranced by watching this sort of thing. If it was on TV, I'd watch it all day. I often wonder about myself.

any suggestions on how to make the pics smaller. i don't know how to do this. Live and learn I guess.

I'm no veteran when it comes to reviewing watches. In fact, this will be my very first one. It's poetic that it begins with a watch that has the moniker "El Primero" right smack-dab on the dial. Well, regardless of all that, I will commence with my thoughts on this fine timepiece. Initial thoughts: The look: Many people would be turned off by this beast. In some ways, it's a watch that has to add more pieces in order to compliment the already complicated structure it has to deal with. The bezel's gearlike structure calls for embellishments on the markers. I think that the addition of stars and markers placed intermittently between the main enumeration is a great way to call attention to the different textures on the dial. Bezel: As far as the rep is concerned, this watch applies those perfectly, and there is no doubt that they feel secure. Furthermore, the watch feels like it turns at 120 clicks. This thing moves like butter, and is by far the best rep bezel I've ever turned. I've turned a gen bezel, and this one is comparable in feel and integrity in every way. Coating: The DLC coating is awesome. I accidentally bumped the desk the other day, and hard, and nothing happened to this monster. I baby my timepieces, and I felt a jerk when I struck it, but nothing happened. I'm impressed. Weight: This watch feels similar in weight to the gen. The titanium structure feels the same as the gen. Disclaimer: this is only my opinion having held both watches in my hand. Dial: Everything seems to have great emphasis on clean, crisp construction. The paint is applied evenly to all markers, and the "fan" sub-dials are well constructed if not a micron uneven. This is also a critique of the lettering on the carbon fiber part of the dial. It appears to be a fraction of a millimeter lower than the gen, but is really trival in relation to everything else. I found the thickness of the upper portion of the dial to be similar to the gen, but the color is slightly more gray-silver. The gen has a lighter tone, almost as if it has a white in it, something similar to what a Rhodium alloy does to gold. All in all, this is one of the most interesting dials I've ever encountered, and under natural light, it really stands out. Lens and AR Coating: I actually like the blue hue on it. I think it compliments the red and the silver on the dial and makes the carbon fiber take on interesting qualities. For such a thick crystal, it's got a lot of perspective, and the mag on this bad boy is gorgeous. I love it, and it really screams quality at every level. Strap: This is one of my favorite rubber straps of all time. it is beautifully constructed, with a good smell (yes, this matters these days), and the knurled aspect really captures the rugged essence of the watch. The buckle is an added bonus. Beautifully constructed, and with a high polish that makes the knurled features really sing. I am also a huge fan of the steel keeper, and although it is slightly uncomfortable when sliding the watch through it, I feel it is one of the things that makes Zenith really innovative and careful about their attention to detail. movement: I'm not going to try to go there. it's an el primero movement in the gen. The rep's not going to catch this... ever. forget about it. You're getting this because getting an EP is not in the budget. I think the subdial spacing is great, and that's all we can hope for. it's a closed caseback, so things look good. Turn on the chrono (which had very good security on the screw on [censored]s) and you'll know right away that this isn't an EP... for those who know what an EP is anyhow. overall: You're getting this watch because it's unique, like most Zeniths of this era are. Aside from the movement and it's own place in watch history, Zenith has made a name for itself as a great designer of unique and avant-garde watches. You can wear this and feel edgy without being over the edge, and that's what makes this watch both rugged, sporty, and trendy. You won't find this in most companies, at least not so powerfully balanced. Hublot comes close, but I think Zenith earns more respect IMHO. Here's the wrist shot to end it off. I love this watch, and I've worn it everyday for two weeks. My suggestion: Make more Zenith's. The Defy Classic is untouched yet, and you still haven't made a larger chronomaster. Even with the manual movements, I'd buy any of these models in a heartbeat and so would others. In the meantime, thanks for reading this. I hope it helped some people on the fence take the dive. Totally worth it. More than totally.

I hope you're right, arrow. If you are, I am first in line and all of you will get a super review. Count on it!