Oyster

The one i have is exactly (and i mean exactly) the same as Torobravo's which are considered pretty good. The only difference is that it comes with screws that will actually fit.

Not being a pam expert, i can only vouch for that it's waaaaaay better than the cartel job.

From photos it appears so, the thing is just better finished unlike the cartel stuff which is crude me thinks but again the CG alone worth half the price of a beginner PAM.

Worth getting one but my question remains, which cases does it fit best? :g:will the crown sticks out? or fully recessed? and the lever?

Are they any good?

Interesting, wasn't aware that the Ti look could be further improved

Here's the how to:

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My 5512 is taking a break today. The Flieger taking over

Cheers,

Rob

What do they call Alternative Medicine that works?

Medicine.

Alternative as in non western

You know you are loved so stay strong and positive!

Have you tried alternative medicine, like Chinese?

Rob

I feel I am being pulled more and more to a vintage sea dwellers.....

Any vintage Rollie is as good They are all "Oyster" anyways

That's a great looking watch, wear it in good health

cramour0065 => Irritating

One good thing about preowned steel sports Rolexes is that they don't depreciate much at all (if you find a good deal). Unlike many other luxury items the actual cost of longtime ownership isn't bad at all.

But the best reps are excellent watches and I think people don't give them enough respect. I have 3 $2k - $6k gens and my ETA Breitling Steelfish replica feels every bit as good as them. It has excellent finish and details.

People put the reps down because they think that Chinese can't make a good product. They absolutely can (if they just put some QC and effort in it). Other reason gen owners tend to act "snobbishly" towards reps is that they somehow want to justify their super expensive gen purchase to themselves. It's just human nature... I just admit it doesn't make any sense. They're toys.

Same thing when people are buying $70K Mercedes off-road vehicles... because the road to their summer cottage is so bumpy. Blah blah blah, etc.

I think Ubi nailed it perfectly. They're just watches and almost no one will ever notice them anyway. Just enjoy them all... I know I do.

Thanks for the link. Locale is another point to factor in where almost every commercial brand names are quite well known from where I'm at. Typically a person from here would ask if its fake first before anything else.

One thing that I have always wondered about these discussions is that even us WIS visualize Rolex synonymous to money and wealth.

A preowned Rolex costs 2K to 6K (the most popular modern stainless models). I mean, if you're interested in watches and you're a working adult, a few K's isn't a lot of money. Most of us average guys make that much every month.

People "invest" 30K on a silly car and nobody raises an eyelid... and people invest a lot of money to their hobbies. But when you're wearing a $4K Rolex suddenly you must be a rich man. Why the hell is that?

I could understand if we're talking about Patek, JLC or Breguet here... but it's only a lowly modern steel Rolex... not a real high end piece. The rarities and vintages are a different matter of course.

You made very good points there By-Tor. On a different note when a rep is spotted, a big fuss is guaranteed to ensued, why is that the case? It all boils down to the question of "You can't afford it" Stereotype at its best

Ahh, I see entirely what you mean, and I quite agree, the profit is definitely derailing the core ethic of a tool watch I would say that the DSSD falls under the same catagory, in that it is over-engineered, and can withstand pressures which would kill the wearer

LOL

On the contrary by wearing such a piece on land that is, would boast the wearer ego tremendously

That aside, in the material world that we live in, watches are just another item for show and not for telling time joining other expensive toys/lifestyle the rich are accustom to, for the heck of it that's the very purpose why these establishment exist the first place.

I know what you mean there, but, would you say that things like the sports were lifestyles which you picked up because of the watches, or, were they interests you already had, and simply gravitated towards the watches which best complemented that lifestyle? I've always loved swimming and any kind of water-based activity, so I've always wanted watches which I could wear in the water (I really don't like being without a watch on for any great length of time) so I just gravitated towards (no doubt helped along the way by James Bond) diver's watches as my primary interest, and, as I enjoy travel, by extension, the GMT complication as well I totally get what you mean about the attitude though. I know one person in particular who is so far up her own ass, it's unbelievable. To hear her describe herself, you'd think she was some kind of gorgeous super-model, when truth be told, she's more than a little on the chunky side, is nearly the same color as a carrot, thanks to fake-tan and sunbeds, and just wears the most tacky, gaudy clothes and bling outside of a 70s Pimp. She seems to think that because she's 'got money', she's above everyone else, and that she's the Top Notch, when truth is, she's the embodiment of all the worst traits of a nouveau riche wannabe footballer's wife/girlfriend (and the one of those I know, is so down to earth, it's laughable by comparison) and those're the worst kind of attitudes to encounter, as they just think that the trappings of wealth somehow make them a better person...

Sports for me come before watches and along the way watch as a tool became a necessity, diving for instance. What I'm trying to relate are the luxury, watch manufacturer are ingraining into our very mind, the association in other word. When both these elements are combined it is a lifestyle and by that watch manufacturer can priced their products a little higher. It is far from complementing as you mentioned unless the tool itself are utilized.

Innovative diving tool watch for instance are created to serve a purpose, that is to aid the diver in time spent underwater and for the mandatory decompression before ascending safely to the surface. Now that perfectly make sense decades ago when the sub/sd & etc were used by divers be it recreational or commercial. Nowadays they are merely show pieces. Why? The cost!

Now how often do you see divers dive with their JLC Master Compressor Pro Geographic? It is a master piece, yes, mechanically superior, yes but the cost of the watch rendered it a museum piece at the end of the day The depth capability is yet another joke. Again it is a triumph in innovation but with zero practicality.

And I'm not saying that this is a bad thing but making loads of profit seemed to derail the very core of a tool watch and the mechanical innovations they proudly advertised.

Couldn't agree less.

Sad to note that its all about who has more dough and looking down on people. Such is our world.

I wonder whats he'd be if he were to be striped off his possessions?

Here's my 2 cents. First of all, I've only got one rep as it is my policy. Strange yes, plus I've also the same rule as some folks here to keep a total of 10 watches at most.

Do I wear my rep? Absolutely! both in and outdoor. Watches are meant to be worn and tell time and I've never been asked if they are a fake. However I do tell them its a rep if they asked but oftentimes they wouldn't believe me and will ask how much I got it for. I'll smile at them and then move on to other topic of conversation

Buying and wearing rep is a personal choice just like diets. Its your call.

However I do dislike what the Swiss watch industry has became. 80% of all Swiss watches are powered by eta and they are priced from affordable to exorbitant. The later I find ridiculous and unworthy for what they are. It is the very notion of lifestyle that they are selling. Again, a personal choice on how you look at it.

I for one are attracted to the design of the watch not the brand, hence my preference above. However at times I'm being sold on the lifestyle bit as well. Activities like, motor sports and water sports are my weaknesses. The good thing is, there are plenty of alternatives out there

From where I come from buying a good piece meant buying an expensive brand irregardless of what movements the piece has. Omega, Panerai, IWC, B&R, Rolex are amongst their favorite. They simply must have them, 10+ watches are their desired goal. I must admit that they do have the dispensable income to afford such time pieces plus they do drive good cars like BMW, Porsche and the likes and living in posh areas. Now I'm not talking about car prices in the UK and USA but prices in Singapore. No problem there if they can afford them but what I dislike most are their attitude. If their friends has them, they must have them too. Well its their money... not mine

Rob

This Oyster. Probably switching back to the 5512 later on!

Rob

The date sucks.

that is a VERY nice sub! MBK I assume ...what dealer did you use?

Highoeyazmuhudee, Yes it is a MBK, the dealer is based in Koh Samui, hope that rings a bell for ya!

Rob

When I see these vintage domed Rolex, I can't help but to think;

and I mean that in the most, possible, complementary way. It just says 'ocean me'.

Speaking of which, and this is a poke, but the demographic here is so varied, I came upon this the other day in a tidal pool on the Atlantic Central Coast of Florida. The push of hurricane 'Bill' brought it from the Gulf Stream. I've fished (and lived) here for over a quarter century. Never seen anything like it. I did a cursory Google and only came up with one hit; "some sort of 'Medusa' ". Like saying "...the 5512 some sort of 'wristwatch' "

Nice piece 'Oyster'. Have it water tested!

Demsey, I can relate to what you've just shared with us. I'm an avid diver and a DM, and for the past decade having spent underwater I definitely felt that the rolex oyster case have a place and belong somewhere in the abyss An alien species perhaps

Rob

Nice piece 'Oyster'. Have it water tested!

Thanks Demsey, Yes I plan to do that but only after tube/crown change

Very nice Oyster. What modifications do you have in mind?

Vlydog, Just the bare basic like crystal & bezel insert swap + tube & crown job.

+1

Stephane, Will leave the watch untouched until I can find someone in my area to do the mods like cg reshaping & widening of lug holes. I'm in Asia, so customs ain't my best friend

For the time being, I will take more shots instead

And oh, vintage lume is also part of the plan, again until I can find someone to do it here

So, the journey begins...

Thanks Justasgood. Totally agree on what you said.

A couple more photos, in colors.

Very clever description. I wonder what's next

eprey indeed...