MP5

like crap. gen is the only way to go

Panerai is one of the few watch companies where 45 and 47 mm is historically correct. There never was a thing as a small Pam. 47 mm is the only size for a radiomir. Even my 45 mm 183 looked off

Awesome info. Now they say these are gen replacements so we are the gen retaining rings fit gen bezel and crystals do these fit gen inserts for sure?

What was the verdict on this?

Awesome, I will ask. Thanks

Seems impossible to find. Ofrie has the wonderful TB7895 (20mmX2.0mm single shoulder bars with 2.8X1.2mm pivots that do well for gen bracelets. What I am after is being able to use the rep bracelets and endlinks on gen or drilled lug cases.

Great looking Tudors guys, I dont see this dial a lot but I love the "scope" look

Definitely in for multiple sets!

Awesome, keep us in mind! Appreciate it!

Wow! Let me say that again, WOW!

Got to agree with Tanya on this one, a 112 would be a better choice for me at that price. $3,800 is not bad for mint but consider the long-term collectability

If it was long term collectability then the lower number logos make sense not the much higher production 111/112. You can get 000 for 32-3500 all day right now though.

I guess autos are thicker than manual. My DSN 240 and 104 are both 17mm. It is the caseback that eats about 3mm of height.

Yes and the bezel is more upright too

nice

For me, I go through alot of trouble to find great crystals. For some reason people dont talk much about it but I feel that is a major difference with the gens being so clear and non diffractive at angles. The height is also a major issue for me. I have seen the dealers changing crystals from time to time and scoop up the ones that are good at angles and height above the bezel. All this AR aside, the new DSN ones are pretty good but I usually take the AR off as it isnt that noticeable on gens and I usually like Prev/A builds.

Any gen in particular? Manual or automatic?

Thanks for taking the time to measure them guys

Zero- manual. Crystal rides .6mm above bezel.

Gen 14.55

201/A Andrew case DSN CB 14.39

Us rift raft are back! I bet Matt is puckering with no zero and no RG

For those of you with an eye for symmetry- Does this look straight? I think it does... But I've been staring at it for so long now that I think my eyes are playing tricks on me.

Sometimes, it looks just ever so slightly off kilter:

If I do a grid of straight lines, however, it looks fairly straight, I think...

Thoughts?

Kinda hard to get a straight on photo with everything square, even, level... I think I need to figure out a jig or something with these things

Looks straight to me. I have optic effects with the pre A/V dials too. Im anal about it

I will state publicly that FGDs efforts are THE most important thing Ever to happen for the Neo vintage PAMS. Step in step with VDBs and Rmcsherrys vintage efforts

Quick clarification, the 2533 was the original proto for the 3646 dated around 1936. This proto used a Rolex cushion shaped PW with attached sodered lugs. According to serial #s there could be as many as four of these left with two known examples.

The Kampschwimer watches were for the most part devoid of markings (although many had the Rolex engraving in the caseback) not so much because Rolex didn't want their markings on these, but mostly as a request of the Kampschwimers who didn't want their equipment identified by the enemy.

Panerai didn't start using Angelus movements in their watches until 1956.

So there are four unaccounted for somewhere out in the world? I have a dream of going to a huge dusty swap meet and finding one in the bottom ogf a box of watches- I will offer $20

I bought this piece a few years ago.

It has given me exemplary service and keeps time well.

But I always wondered whether a gen of this model exists?

The dial color ( which I love) is unique.

Umm..... NO!

T48 Titanium crown is SOLD OUT

Titanium crowns are available in T60 only

Your not going to make any more? We love you for it!

Looks really good Harley, For the first time ever Im saying that about a Hoblot!

Im wearing this this weekend

The Hands are untouched

but the numbers are hand lumed, made by the Combo

here the wristies remember the lines on the vulcano Plexi like Gen

cheers helmut

Thats seriously the most amazing watch Ive seen. Any chance a mortal can find that movement anywhere?