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funkybuda
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"You now have to decide whether they bother you." ...see, that's a problem I didn't know I would have over a week ago when I started reading about the rep watches. I guess the saying of "ignorance is a blessing" can be true
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Hey Siesta,
That 111 in your picture looks great!! Is it your own mod? If not, may I ask from which collector you got this?
Thanks!
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Your not alone funky. It seems like most members perfer the traditional Pams with CG. I also purchased a 111, 250, 212 flyback. I have to admit that the flyback Is a awsome Rep as far as accuracy Is concerned. It also seems like you know a lot more than most new members, good for you Good luck and Im sure you will end up with something really nice.
Mike (ps) mineral glass and synthetic sapphire are the same thing I think
Oh man, I love Pam 212, but do you know any reputable place that I can get one with Sapphire Cystal w/ AR of this model? Thanks!
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Very well said greg! And I agree almost 100%. I guess I am just trying to reassure myself and starting off on the right foot. Yeah, none of them is flawless, as beautiful as your 111h as shown in the picture, I am sure all the rest of gurus will probably jump on the distance between the 6 and "swiss made" as one of the obvious tells. Nevertheless, it's still a remarkable rep, and may I confirm that you got this from DavidSen?
Thanks again man for the reply and the picture!! You guys rock
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Thanks siesta and maxman!!
Didn't look at the Ferrari line at all for a couple of reasons:
1. Never a big fan of Ferrari, and for some weird reason, not a huge fan of this kind of "fusion" products by two well known brands of any kind. I think this is the major reason I stayed away from this series.
2. I would have never guessed it if you two didn't tell me that the FER00008 is the closest rep out of box!! That is , if I follow that same logic of "less is better". Just seems that so many details can go wrong with that Chrono, but I will take your words for it.
3. I am also in love with the unique CG design of the Pam Luminors.
Hehe, so I guess my questions should have been the same ones MINUS the entire Ferrari line:)
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wow...pretty nice summary. U really did ur homework, funky!!
I'd say the base dial ones would be a good start (the one without seconds hand) but again, it might not be ur style.
Wait for the guy below...
Yeah, I thought of 112 as well as it's even more basic. Of course I like a bit of variety and the fact that 111' second hand does not reside on a different sub dial makes me wanting to believe that it still has less of a chance to introduce irregularities. Again, this is all happening in a noobi's head, which doesn't know anything about the world of rep other then passing by some really plastic looking cheapos in Chinatown way back then...
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Hey guys,
I have only entered this wonderful world of Rep Watch in less then a week and was lucky enough to find this site on the first day. I am truly amazed and overwhelmed by the amount of information and knowledge that people are willing to share with one another here.
What started me off was seeing a beautiful Pam 88 in some ads. Then for a short while, I spent more time researching for a rep Graham Swordfish, as some "review site" ranked it as 1 of the top 10 most accurate rep watches AND others are also saying that Pam reps are dime in a dozen nowadays. But in the end, I can't resist the subtle elegance of a Pam, it's bold yet not too flashy.
I have also spent sometime lurking around this area, trying to find out all the information I need by exhausting the "search" button before I put up yet another noobi thread, bugging you guys. I did find a lots of answers/information as I go through different models, and here are some of the things I learned:
1. My first love, Pam 88, probably has two best out of box versions: cartel best version ( $428 from Josh ) and DavidSen. All has its pros and cons with most people saying DavidSen's is a bit closer to the gen out of box and also better bang for the buck. The biggest problems are the shades of the dial/sub dial, boldness of the small numbers, cyclops, placement of the "swiss made" at the bottom and CG.
2. Then I spotted a Pam 186 Arktos, loved it but again, it doesn't seem to have better reps then the Pam 88 I mentioned above. The best I've seen is from Josh for $288. So needless to say, it's definitely not even close to his "best version" as he charges them at the ridiculous price of $428:) Also, it's a limited edition of 500 units world wide, so even if I spot one on the street, I will automatically assume, just like many others should/would do, that it's a rep, not a gen, simply because of the extreme low probability of running into 1 in 500 of anything in this world:)
3. The Pam 212 also caught my eye, but again, there are just so many elements of the watch that even the most dedicated watch collector can easily miss, not to mention that the only reps I find from reputable collectors are all using mineral glass or synthetic sapphire, which are probably other ways of calling regular glass or even plastic:)
Having gone through these, I started to think if my objective is to find a rep Pam that can be as close to the gen as possible, right out of the box, maybe I should look for some model that doesn't have that many "variables" where the details can easily be missed? For instance, I love Pam 88, but if the color of the dial/sub dial, or the mag at 3 o'clock, or even the fonts of the small numbers are some of the easy giveaways, I should find a model that doesn't have those elements to begin with. Make sense?
Now, following that same logic, would you agree that a Pam 111 should be an in-production, AND not a limited edition model that's easier to rep as close to gen out of the box? Or maybe there are some other models ( I just can't believe how many Pam models there are over the years ) that are similar AND is known to have excellent out of box reps? Maybe a Pam 111 from DavidSen with the old rep case if he still has them is the best one to get?
Thanks and hopefully I will get some suggestions from you guys. Cheers!!
Less is better?!
in The Panerai Area
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WatchEden claims they sell a sapphire one here: http://www.watcheden.com/panerai-pam-212-f...-16267-p-1.html
I haven't emailed him to confirm whether it's a genuine or synthetic version. But really, we pretty much have to take their words for it right as there is no way of knowing just from the pictures?
And yes, I will be interested in what those "rubbing compound" is, just in case in the future.
Also, I've finally heard back from DSN but didn't know his price on the 111h is that high. His price on 88 is actually over 100 cheaper then the "best version" from Josh , but again, he doesn't seem to want to send any pictures before shipping. Is this the norm when you deal with a collector through emails?
Please let me know if there is any common etiquette when discussing dealer experience in public here. Like in terms of pricing and so on.